FB in WARRSTHREE 2

[michel]

WARRSTHREE 2 (6 - 13)-FB is missing, it's placed "in the early days of all things" : we see how the Warriors Three, all young adults, meet for the first time and fight the Fenris Wolf. There's also a young Thor showing how his new weapon Mjolnir works.

I'll let Thor's specialists place it.

[Leoparis]

If it's their first meeting, it's their first appearance. I don't think we have any stories of them before that.

Note: I'm less than certain that the current Asgardian listings are correct. For instance, Thor: Son of Asgard (where Thor is a youth handling a sword) should be before T:AGES T:TRIAL T:RAGE T:MAN T:REIGN (where he's an adult handling Mjolnir).

FANDRAL/"ROBIN HOOD"
WARRSTHREE 2-FB
T:AGES
T:TRIAL

HOGUN
WARRSTHREE 2-FB
T:AGES
T:TRIAL

VOLSTAGG
WARRSTHREE 2-FB
T:AGES
T:TRIAL

[michel]

Don't the Asgardians' chronologies involve several Ragnarok cycles? Then their first meeting should be at the beginning of the Ragnarok cycle in which JIM 83 takes place.

Related question : where should we place the appearances of Odin with the Avengers of 1.000.000 BC?

[Col_Fury]

Right, this would be them meeting during the current Ragnarok cycle.

VOLSTAGG
T:AGES
T:TRIAL
T:REIGN
T:MAN (a previous cycle)
T 294-FB
T 400/2-FB
T:SOA 5 (they all already know each other, right?)
......

I don't have time to check at the moment, but don't later issues of T:SOA expand on Thor picking up Mjolnir for the first time? Does Thor already have Mjolnir when they fight Fenris? Hopefully the first meeting can be separated from any Mjolnir scenes...

[Leoparis]

Yes, T:SOA 10-11 elaborate on JIM 102/3, his ultimate trial (facing death--Hela) allowing him to raise Mjölnir.

The Warriors Three are first seen together, unnamed, in T:SOA 7. They make cameos in 5 & 6.

I did not know that we had stories from the previous Ragnarok cycle.

Wonder how it works. I would think that Asgardians have no memory from previous cycles and would get to know each other every time it starts. Only Odin who made a sacrifice of himself to himself and/or gave up an eye would have the knowledge of past incarnations. I thought Hogun is not Asgardian-born, he is supposed to be a hostage prince from a conquered tribe growing up with the Aesir. Does it mean his tribe gets conquered in each reincarnation? Or maybe they're Asgardians but not Aesir.

I'll buy the Thor by Fraction Omnibus when it comes out to read those. I had read some of them when they came out and don't recall they involved previous incarnations.

[StrayLamb]

We had a discussion on the Ragnarok Cycles a couple of years back, which you may find of interest.

[michel]

I don't have time to check at the moment, but don't later issues of T:SOA expand on Thor picking up Mjolnir for the first time? Does Thor already have Mjolnir when they fight Fenris? Hopefully the first meeting can be separated from any Mjolnir scenes...

Sadly, that's not the case. The FB begins with Thor showing off with Mjolnir and Volstagg saying : "Still, I hope now that you wield dread Mjolnir, you'll show some charity, young warrior..."

In Thor's listing, JIM 102/3 and T:SOA 10-12 are placed between T5 7 and M/FAN 37, two comics in which the Warriors Three appear as grown-ups. So a FB with Thor with Mjolnir and the first meeting of the young Warriors Three (Volstagg is still thin) doesn't work.

So what should we do?

[Leoparis]

So I guess the flashback is the absolute first time they meet rather than the first time they meet during the current cycle.
So it should be placed as their earliest appearance. We don't have to determine whether they first met during the first cycle or later. (The fact none of them are in the Norse myths could be construed as meaning they formed a bond in later cycles. Or not.)

Since T:Ages is the earliest appearance for all four characters, before that seems the easy solution.