Defenders (2011) 9-12 SHIELD Cold War flashbacks

[Leoparis]

Multiple references to the sixties, to Mary Quant, to John Coltrane having just died and fashions place this in late July 1967.
In addition the DEF4 sections have been placed between the Druid story (ST 145) and its aftermath (DF 2.4) and the 1966 issues from Bitter March have been placed after the 1967 parts of DEF4.

For Strucker DEF4 9 follows the 1961 flashbacks in SECWARR. UX 161-FB (at the time of David Haller's conception) needs to take place after UTSM -1 (at the time of Peter Parker's conception) since Parker is older than David.

For Fury the whole reorganization is explained elsewhere. Only the relevant parts are made visible.

BARON STRUCKER/WOLFGANG VON STRUCKER
M/U 3
NFAOS3 3-FB
NFAOS3 4-FB
NFAOS3 5-FB
WX2 14-FB
*F 1 (9:3 - 11)-FB delete
NSUB 10-FB
*F 1 (12)-FB delete
NSUB 8-FB-BTS
*UX 161-FB move from here
SECWARR 25-FB
SECWARR 26-FB
*DEF4 9 move to here
UTSM -1
*UX 161-FB move to here
*F 1 (29 - 41:2)-FB delete
*F 1 (43 - 53)-FB delete
*DEF4 9 move from here
ST 150

DE FONTAINE, VALENTINA ALLEGRA (add entry)
SHIELD3 9-FB
DEF4 9
INTIM 6
INTIM 7

DE FONTAINE, LA CONTESSA VALENTINA ALLEGRO
SECWARR 14-FB
*DEF4 9 delete
{ST 159}

FURY, COL. NICHOLAS "NICK" JOSEPH
ST 136
[[[CLICK & DRAG: *Agent Carter: SHIELD 50th Anniversary 1 (Winter 1966) add
*Web of Venom: Ve'Nam 1-FB (pages 4 - 7) (Feb 1966) add]]]
*WSOL:BM 1 (March 66) move to here
*WSOL:BM 5 (March 66) move to here
[[[CLICK & DRAG: *Web of Venom: Ve'Nam 1 (pages 8 - 30) (July 1966) add
*1966 Original Sins 5-FB add (1966)
ST 137
...
ST 145
DF 2.4 (4:4)-FB
*SGTF@3 (August 1967, published June 1, 1967) move to here
*SHIELD3 9-FB add]]]
*DEF4 9 move to here
*DEF4 10 move to here
*DEF4 11 move to here
*DEF4 12 move to here
[[[CLICK & DRAG: *SGTF@4 (Christmas Eve 1967) move to here
*Original Sin Annual 1 (1968) add]]]
*DEF4 9 move from here
*DEF4 10 move from here
*DEF4 11 move from here
*DEF4 12 move from here
*WSOL:BM 1 move from here
*WSOL:BM 5 move from here
*DF 2.4 (4:4)-FB move from here

HATE-MONGER/ADOLF HITLER/"ADAM HAUSER"
SVTU 17 (14:4)-FB
*DEF4 9 move to here
FF 21-FB-BTS
{FF 21}
*DEF4 9 move from here
NFAOS 9

SITWELL, JASPER I (add entry)
ST 144
ST 145
DF 2.4-FB
SGTF@ 3-FB
SGTF@ 3
SHIELD3 9-FB
DEF4 9

SITWELL, JASPER II (add numeral)
*SHIELD3 9/2 (8:3)-FB add
*ST 144 delete
*ST 145 delete
*DEF4 9 delete
*DF 2.4-FB delete
...
ST 159
*SGTF@ 3 delete
TOS 93

[Captain Good]

I really don't see how the setting of Defenders v 4 #9 can be considered part of the mainstream Marvel universe. Apart from Hitler appearing still alive and (sort of) well, the Nick Fury of this reality is kidnapped by the Defenders in this issue, is taken back with them to Earth-11127, and (to his chagrin) is destroyed along with them and the rest of that universe in #12. This is obviously incompatible with the history of Earth-616 Fury.

For what it's worth, the Marvel fandom wiki gives this reality the separate designation of Earth-12109, presumably based on the publication date and issue number of Defenders v 4 #9.

[Col_Fury]

Yep. Also, EARTH-12109 came from the Appendix/Master List.

And hey, just how great was DEF4? I mean, just the gutter messages were awesome all by themselves.

THE UNIVERSE WILL BREAK
SHUT THE ENGINES DOWN
EVERYONE YOU LOVE DIES
FIGHT TO SAVE EVERYTHING
WHAT STRANGENESS LURKS IN ALFRED BEACH’S LONG LOST CITY HALL STATION? GOOGLE IT!
A DEADLY GAME OF CAT AND…CAT…IN PUSSYCAT: AGENT OF S.C.O.R.E. #∞
WE DIDN’T MAKE UP PUSSYCAT: AGENT OF S.C.O.R.E., BY THE WAY

And I love the Namor boat/ship stuff with his mom.

On the A-Z pages:

BARON STRUCKER/WOLFGANG VON STRUCKER
……
F 1 (43 - 53)-FB
**DEF4 9 (delete)
ST 150
……

DE FONTAINE, LA CONTESSA VALENTINA ALLEGRO
SECWARR 14-FB
**DEF4 9 (delete)
{ST 159}
……

FURY, COL. NICHOLAS "NICK" JOSEPH
……
ST 145
**DEF4 9 (delete)
**DEF4 10 (delete)
**DEF4 11 (delete)
**DEF4 12 (delete)
WSOL:BM 1
……

HATE-MONGER/ADOLF HITLER/"ADAM HAUSER"
……
{FF 21}
**DEF4 9 (delete)
NFAOS 9
……

**PUSSYCAT (delete entry)
DEF4 9

SITWELL, JASPER
……
ST 145
**DEF4 9 (delete)
DF 2.4-FB
……

On the Alternate Realities page:

EARTH-12109

BARON STRUCKER/WOLFGANG VON STRUCKER | EARTH-12109
DEF4 9

DE FONTAINE, LA CONTESSA VALENTINA ALLEGRO | EARTH-12109
DEF4 9

FURY, COL. NICK | EARTH-12109
DEF4 9
DEF4 10
DEF4 11
DEF4 12

HITLER, ADOLF | EARTH-12109
DEF4 9

PUSSYCAT | EARTH-12109
DEF4 9

SITWELL, JASPER | EARTH-12109
DEF4 9

Just curious, does anyone have a copy of THE ADVENTURES OF PUSSYCAT (1968)? Just wondering…

[Midnighter]

Thanks to a collector I saw some of the Pussycat stories translated here in Italy in certain adult magazines during the 1970s.
On the Italian database of Marvel publications with which I collaborate they have done a great job of indexing the stories of Pussycat, I think that not even the US sites have collected all this information.

The Adventures of Pussycat tab is this:
https://www.blue-area.net/node/907869

[StrayLamb]

Just curious, does anyone have a copy of THE ADVENTURES OF PUSSYCAT (1968)? Just wondering…

Yep - i have it.

[vanhornluke]

I would love for someone to index all of the Pussycat stories from Martin Goodman's men's adventure magazines and get those stories added to the MCP.

[StrayLamb]

I'll put it on my list of things to do, but if anyone wants to do it first, go for it.

[Captain Good]

And hey, just how great was DEF4?

I loved all the shout-outs in the team that protected the Concordance Engines from the Confederates of the Curious. Besides Namor's parents Len and Fen, there were:
John Aman: Bill Everett's Amazing-Man from Centaur Publications' Amazing-Man Comics (1939–41) and Stars and Stripes Comics (1941)
Nemo, the Rogue Captain: from Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1870) and The Mysterious Island (1874)
Judex, the Shadow: played by René Cresté in the French film serials Judex (1916) and La Nouvelle Mission de Judex (1917)
Musidora, the Thief: named after the actress who played Marie Verdier in Judex and Irma Vep in Les Vampires (1915–16)
Orissa Kravinov, the Aviatrix: her surname and the lion's head on the plastron of her kurtka make it pretty clear she is related to Kraven the Hunter
Farraday Bobbs, the Writer: "Faraday Bobbs, Free Lance" appeared in six stories by Louis Joseph Vance in The Popular Magazine (April–September 1906) — quite proud of myself for catching that one
Ivar, the Strong: any ideas?

[StrayLamb]

Ivar, the Strong: any ideas?

The only Ivar that comes to mind was a villain in an episode of Johnny Quest. Could it be him? He has the same bald head and moustache..