Plunderer OP in ASM 104

[StrayLamb]

Lord Plunder is shown in a flashback in Astonishing Tales 18 to have been off-panel in ASM 104, watching from behind a tree as Spider-Man swings off after leaving Gog in quicksand. The rest of the flashback occurs immediately after ASM 104. Also, in Ka-Zar's chronology, AT 11 is placed after ASM 104.

Suggested updates..

PLUNDERER/LORD EDGAR PARNIVAL PLUNDER
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TTA 98
M/S-H 19
ASM 104-OP * ADD
AT 18-FB * MOVE TO HERE
AT 11
AT 18-FB * MOVE FROM HERE
AT 20-FB
AT 17
AT 18
AT 19
AT 20
FF 191
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[Russ Chappell]

If it's the same scene, there's no need to list the off-panel appearance, as the actual appearance in flashback would trump the off-panel one.

I assume it's the same scene, since you're not making the case that Spider-Man's appearance in the flashback should be added to his chronology.

[StrayLamb]

It's the same scene for Spider-Man and Gog, but we're seeing it from a different angle, so now we see Lord Plunder watching from behind a tree, which we didn't see in ASM 104.

[Col_Fury]

Right. ASM 104 (19:2) and AT 18 (7:2)-FB have basically the same position for Gog and Spider-Man, but Plunderer is in AT while he isn't in ASM. Gog and Plunderer then appear in AT 18 (7:3 - 7:4)-FB after ASM 104 ends (and after ASM 111-FB, which Plunderer would also have to be present, yet unseen, for).

So we could either say AT 18 (7:2)-FB isn't a new scene but reveals new information:

PLUNDERER/LORD EDGAR PARNIVAL PLUNDER
……
TTA 98
M/S-H 19
ASM 104-OP | cf AT 18
ASM 111-FB-OP | cf AT 18
AT 18-FB
AT 11
……

or say AT 18 (7:2)-FB is a new scene, albeit seconds after ASM 104 (19:2):

GOG II [TSLIN]
……
{ASM 103}
ASM 104
AT 18 (7:2)-FB
ASM 111-FB
AT 18 (7:3 - 7:4)-FB
AT 17
……

PLUNDERER/LORD EDGAR PARNIVAL PLUNDER
……
TTA 98
M/S-H 19
AT 18 (7:2)-FB
ASM 111-FB-OP | cf AT 18
AT 18 (7:3 - 7:4)-FB
AT 11
……

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
……
ASM 103
ASM 104 (1 - 19:2)
AT 18-FB
ASM 104 (19:3 - 21)
ASM 105 (1 - 9)
……

Fun bit: AT 18 has a footnote pointing to ASM 103 instead of 104. Oops!

[StrayLamb]

So we could either say AT 18 (7:2)-FB isn't a new scene but reveals new information:

PLUNDERER/LORD EDGAR PARNIVAL PLUNDER
……
TTA 98
M/S-H 19
ASM 104-OP | cf AT 18
ASM 111-FB-OP | cf AT 18
AT 18-FB
AT 11
……

or say AT 18 (7:2)-FB is a new scene, albeit seconds after ASM 104 (19:2):

PLUNDERER/LORD EDGAR PARNIVAL PLUNDER
……
TTA 98
M/S-H 19
AT 18 (7:2)-FB
ASM 111-FB-OP | cf AT 18
AT 18 (7:3 - 7:4)-FB
AT 11
……

I like placing the new scene seconds after ASM 104 (19:2), with the camera panning back to reveal Plunderer, but he would still be literally just off-panel in ASM 104 (19:2) & ASM 111-FB

PLUNDERER/LORD EDGAR PARNIVAL PLUNDER
……
TTA 98
M/S-H 19
ASM 104-OP | cf AT 18
ASM 111-FB-OP | cf AT 18
AT 18 (7:2)-FB
ASM 111-FB-OP | cf AT 18
AT 18 (7:3 - 7:4)-FB
AT 11
……