Missing Punisher appearances

[Giant Ant]

I noticed a couple of missing appearances for the Punisher.
PWJ 61/2 : Punisher kills an unamed criminal
PWZ 23/2 : Punisher trains and narrates his conditioning techniques, beats up some unnamed thugs
PWJ 70/1 : Punisher buys a car ( this issue is already included in other characters chronologies, like Payback and Lynn Michaels, but was skipped for the Punisher. The /1 should be added to the other characters chronologies. The second story features Punisher IV Jimmy Pierce and is already included in his chronology). This one probably goes before PWJ 71/1.
Does the index give any indications for placement?

[vanhornluke]

MCP is also missing Frank's appearance in The Punisher Meets Archie #1, which the handbooks confirm is 616 rather than 7642.

[Somebody]

The /1 should be added to the other characters chronologies.

First stories don't get a /number. Only subsequent stories in an issue.

[Col_Fury]

The Punisher Index says this for PWJ 70:

PUNISHER II/FRANCIS G. CASTIGLIONE/"FRANK CASTLE"
……
P2 95
*PWJ 70
PWJ 71
……

PWJ 61/2 is covered, but doesn't give a chronology. I would put it before the Suicide Run crossover begins, here:

PUNISHER II/FRANCIS G. CASTIGLIONE/"FRANK CASTLE"
……
GR/W/P:DD
*PWJ 61/2
PWJ 61
……

PWZ 23/2 is covered, but doesn't give a chronology. It's one of those weird things where Punisher is talking to the audience or something. There were more than a few of them, some were in Annuals I think? I'll have to look around to see if any of these were given a chronology by the Index.

[StrayLamb]

Also, do we need /2 when there's no reason not to believe the second story doesn't follow on immediately after the first story, with nothing else to place in there to break them apart?

[Russ Chappell]

If by "the second story", you mean that it's truly a second story, then yes, you need the /2. It doesn't matter that the second story takes place immediately after the first story. If by "the second story" you mean one story broken into chapters, then it's one story.

[Giant Ant]

The Punisher Index says this for PWJ 70:

PUNISHER II/FRANCIS G. CASTIGLIONE/"FRANK CASTLE"
……
P2 95
*PWJ 70
PWJ 71
……

PWJ 61/2 is covered, but doesn't give a chronology. I would put it before the Suicide Run crossover begins, here:

PUNISHER II/FRANCIS G. CASTIGLIONE/"FRANK CASTLE"
……
GR/W/P:DD
*PWJ 61/2
PWJ 61
……

PWZ 23/2 is covered, but doesn't give a chronology. It's one of those weird things where Punisher is talking to the audience or something. There were more than a few of them, some were in Annuals I think? I'll have to look around to see if any of these were given a chronology by the Index.

Thanks!
That isn't much different from when he narrates his "war journal " entries. I guess he just likes talking to himself!
see also the Punisher Armory series, where he describes various weaponry. Would that be canon? I think we see him in at least one issue...

[vanhornluke]

Is Rat-Man 616? He met the Punisher in Wiz #12 (Oct 1996). That story is only in Italian, so I've never read it (or any other Rat-Man story), and so don't know if it's possible that's the 616 version of Frank who appears there or not.

[Midnighter]

Rat-Man is set in his own universe. There are other team-up with Marvel characters (with Spider-Man, with Captain America & Nick Fury, with Wolverine, with Elektra and a really hilarious one with Doctor Doom, while Von Doom was training in Tibet ), but all of them are set in the Rat-Man universe.
When these stories were reprinted in more recent times, these characters have been slightly modified so as not to have rights issues with Marvel.