Leonardo da Vinci's LMD

[robfj]

LEONARDO/"LEONARDO DA VINCI"
SHIELD 1 (15 - 17)-FB-FB (1495)
SHIELD ∞ (1497)
SHIELD2 1-FB (1502)
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503)
NA2 26-FB
NA2 27-FB
{TOS 49/2}
SHIELD 2-FB (1956)
SHIELD 3 (1956)
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I've already mentioned in a previous thread that there is a missing SHIELD 1-FB (1956) because he arrives in 1956 at the end of #1.

LEONARDO/"LEONARDO DA VINCI"
SHIELD 1 (15 - 17)-FB-FB (1495)
SHIELD ∞ (1497)
SHIELD2 1-FB (1502)
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503)
NA2 26-FB
NA2 27-FB
{TOS 49/2}
SHIELD 1-FB (1956) ** already added
SHIELD 2-FB (1956)
SHIELD 3 (1956)
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Leonardo creates a 'decoy' in SHIELD2 2-FB (1503) because he intends to travel to the future and will leave this android to live out the rest of da Vinci's life in the 16th Century. In SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503) he leaves that time, and arrives in the 20th Century in SHIELD 1-FB (1956).

This decoy will eventually be buried as Leonardo. The tomb will be opened in 1961 in a flashback in Secret Warriors #25-26, and the android will be the prototype for SHIELD's Life Model Decoys.

Thus we should have a new char

LEONARDO LMD
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
SECWARR 25-FB
SECWARR 26-FB

(Note that this has nothing to do with the Leonardo robot in New Warriors v3 #4-5.)

But what about the 3 entries for Leonardo between SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503) and SHIELD 1-FB (1956)? Are these actually the LMD or should they really be before SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503)?

TOS 49/2 is a Tales Of The Watcher story where the Sneepers spy on Earth and among other things see Leonardo painting the Mona Lisa. Since this was done after 1503 then it must be the LMD that painted that famous image!

NA2 26-27-FB are more debatable. There is no actual date quoted, and there are no direct clues. However at the very beginning of 26-FB I believe there are some clues in what Leonardo says.

1st he says that he believes in prophecy. I could take this to suggest this is after his encounter with the Forever Man in 1502 in SHIELD2 1-FB where FM gives him knowledge of the future.

2nd when told about K'un Lun he says "Another hidden city.". I take this as a reference to the Brotherhood's Immortal City under Rome which FM told him in detail how to build, again in SHIELD2 1-FB.
So even if this isn't the LMD Leonardo it happens after SHIELD2 1-FB. Whoever it is goes to K'un Lun for some time. I would guess Leonardo would be too busy in 1502-03 designing the LMD and creating his time-travel suit to go away for a long time. (I would even suggest that he had to leave the building of the Immortal City to the LMD after he'd gone.)
So my conclusion is that it's the LMD in NA2 26-27-FB.


In summary

LEONARDO/"LEONARDO DA VINCI"
SHIELD 1 (15 - 17)-FB-FB (1495)
SHIELD ∞ (1497)
SHIELD2 1-FB (1502)
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503)
(NA2 26-FB ** deleted)
(NA2 27-FB ** deleted)
({TOS 49/2} ** deleted)
SHIELD 1-FB (1956) ** already added
SHIELD 2-FB (1956)
SHIELD 3 (1956)
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LEONARDO LMD ** new character
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
NA2 26-FB
NA2 27-FB
TOS 49/2
SECWARR 25-FB
SECWARR 26-FB

[vanhornluke]

Which Leonardo is it in Mystery Tales #41 and Astonishing #54?

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I found both comics on [scrubbed]

Astonishing #54 3rd story
It's dated 1450 which is unfortunately 2 years before Leonardo was born. But the character looks like a young man so we can take it as earlier than his otherwise earliest app in 1495.

Marvel Tales #41 1st story
Leonardo sends a robot and other inventions off into space to keep them from the fearful population. It doesn't give a date but the robot is cruder than the LMD, so presumably earlier. And why would the LMD make a lesser version?
However Leonardo looks older here than in SHIELD. So I propose the following:-
Leonardo built the crude robot earlier. The LMD was approaching his death date. (Forever Man would have told Leonardo when history said he died, and the LMD would pretend to die then.) He wanted to keep some inventions away from the unready world, so sent them off in a rocket.

So my solution is:-

LEONARDO/"LEONARDO DA VINCI"
ASTON 54/3 ** added
SHIELD 1 (15 - 17)-FB-FB (1495)
SHIELD ∞ (1497)
SHIELD2 1-FB (1502)
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
SHIELD 1 (18:2 - 20:2)-FB-FB (1503)
(NA2 26-FB ** deleted)
(NA2 27-FB ** deleted)
({TOS 49/2} ** deleted)
SHIELD 1-FB (1956) ** already added
SHIELD 2-FB (1956)
SHIELD 3 (1956)
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LEONARDO LMD ** new character
SHIELD2 2-FB (1503)
NA2 26-FB
NA2 27-FB
TOS 49/2
MTALES 41 ** added
SECWARR 25-FB
SECWARR 26-FB