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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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an update:

SECEMP
U.S.A 10-FB (cleaning up Hydra cells)
EVVERSE 1-5
VVERSE:WS
VVERSE 1-5
BB 1-6, 7 (1 - 17) (Absorbing Man dies)
ROYALS 9-12 (after BB 6)
FCBD2017:ANGOTG, ANGOTG 1-2, 4-8, 10, 12
MCM 9, CM6 125-126
SMENII 1-5 (SHIELD shutting down)
SM2 16, 17 (1-12)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
DEF5 3 (10 - 20), 4-5, 6 (1 - 17)
ASM4 32 (before M/:LEG)
AMERICA 7-12
USQG2 22-25
ICE 6-7
WX3 12-14
DPV.OML 1-5
DD5 26, 27 (1-7) (no DD appearances until DD5 27-28) (before M/:LEG)
TOS 103 (1-5)-FB ["one month" before TOS 100]
MU3 6-8
X:B 10-12
DS4 25
H4 11
MSM4 19-22 [summer]
SM/DP 23-27
UGP 21-25
IIM3 11
IM 593 (1-9)
M/:LEG (SHIELD’s "last day," Steve has shield & already on the road) (Kingpin running for mayor) ("Phoenix" Wolverine)
IM 593 (10-16)
CM6 127-129
CHMPS2 12
DS4 26
HAWK5 12-16
X:G 9-11
DAZZ3 1
DHAWK 51
MOKF 126
PP 63
SSBL&WP 36
LEGION 1-5
ASM 789 ("weeks" after SECEMP)
DP6 36, DDP 287-291
ASM 790
A6 11
SOV 1-5
FAL2 1-5 (1 - 19), 7-FB
DD5 27 (8-20), 28, DD 595 (1-5) (Kingpin becomes NYC mayor)
V 155-158 (Kingpin mayor)
PPSSM2 6, PPSSM 297-307 (Daredevil appears, Black Cat crimelord, Kingpin mayor)
LC 1-5, 166-169
ASM 791
X:G 12-15 & X:B 13-15 (Spider-Man & Champions appear)
ICE3 8-10
USQG2 26
DD 595 (6-20), 596
ASM:VINCA / ASM 792 / V 159 / ASM 793 / V 160 / ASM:VINCO (Black Cat crimelord)
V 161
CA 695 [“a few months” after SECEMP]
UA3 30 (after ASM 790)
ASM 794, 795-FB (Bobbi & Peter break up)
X:G 16-20
ANW 25-30
TOS 103 (6-10)-FB ["weeks after" (1-5)-FB]
BB 7 (18 - 20), BB 8 (1 - 17) (before X:R@ 1-FB)
JG 4-10 (before DS 383-FB)
PHXR:ROJG 1-3 (before GENX2 8)
JG 11 (1-28)
PHXR:ROJG 4-5
X:R@ 1-FB (after BB 8 & X:G 20, before ASTONX4 1)
JG 11 (29-30)
X:R@ 1
TOS 100 (1-7) / SECWARR2 6 (1-7) / TOS 100 (8-20) / SECWARR2 (8-20) (Chernaya coup)
SECWARR2 7-11 (Deadpool, Moon Girl, Ms. Marvel) [the 4 days following TOS 100]
TOS 103 (11-12)-FB ["4 days" after (6-10)-FB]
TOS 101, TOS 102 (1-16)
P 218-219 ["3 days" after TOS 100]
TOS 103 (13-15)-FB, TOS 102 (17-20), TOS 103-104 ["2 days" after TOS 101]
NM:DS 1-6-FBs
DS 383-FB (Loki becomes Sorcerer Supreme)
USQG2 27-30 (Loki very recently Sorcerer Supreme)
C4 1-5
SECWARR2 12
SM/DP 28-36
DS 381 (Strange a vet)
A 672-674 / CHMPS2 13-15 (Spider-Miles has web-shooters)
CHMPS2 16-18 [“days” after A 674]
CA 696
MU3 9-12
DD 597
ASM 795 (Loki Sorcerer Supreme) (Peter found new apartment)
X:B 16-20
ASM@ 42
GENX2 8-9 & GENX 85-87
DDP 292-296
ASM 796 (Stark gone for “months”)
IM 593 (17-18) (Sam is Falcon (after A6 11), Spider-Miles has web-shooters)
ASM@ 42/2
ANW 31
CHMPS2 19-21 (Alpha Flight & Capt. Marvel appear) (Vision has been helping w/new ship)
MK 188-193
X:G@ 1
SM/DP 37-50 (Thunderball a villain) [“weeks” after SM/DP 36]
IF5 1-7, IF 73-77
BP6 12 (19-20), BP6 13-18, BP 166-172 (Thunderball reformed?)
ICE3 11
X:G 21-25 (after ICE3 11)
ANW 32
X:B@ 1 / V 162-163 / X:B 21-22 (nu-X-Men in space)
WX3 15-16
V 164-165
MG&DDINO 19-23 (Devil Dinosaur gone)
ASM5 1 (10 - 12)-FB
MT2 20-23 & T 700-701 (grey She-Hulk appears)
M/2IO 1
MG&DDINO 24-30 (Devil Dinosaur back)
M/2IO 2
THANOS2 13-18
THANOSLEG (6-7)-FB
THANOS@2 1
FAL2 5 (20), 6-8
X:B 23-28
VIZED 1-5 (before ASM 800 & T 702) (nu-X-Men return from space) (Vision appears)
X:B 29-35
A 675-690 (Cho still Hulk, Spider-Miles, Strange blue cloak, Vision damaged)
M/2IO 3-6 (Thing & Torch unavailable until M/2IO 10) (before IM 600)
SM2 20-FB
SM2 20-21 (Miles loses web-shooters) (Cable appears) [“two weeks after” SM2 19]
M/2IO@ 1 (before IM 600)
C 150-154
M/2IO 7 (before IM 600)
IM 593 (19-22), 594-596, 598-FB (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) [3 or 5 days long]
SM2 240 (1-10) (Stark appears) ["34 hours" after SM2 240-FB]
U.S.A 10-12 (Red Hulk de-powered)
SM2 240 (11-12) (Sam still Nova) (Cho still Hulk)
DOMINO3 1-6 (Cho still Hulk, before X-wedding, before WX3 17)
M/2IO 8-10 (Thing & Torch return) (before PPSSM 308, FF6 1)
SM2 240 (13-14)
P 220-226, 227 (1-3) ["3 weeks" since TOS 100]
SM2 240 (15-20) (Miles leaves hospital)
IM 597-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together) (after M/2IO@ 1 & M/2IO 7)
P 227 (4-20), 228 (Stark appears w/Rhodey)
TAH 23 & IH2 709-713 (1-17) (Cho & Unworthy Thor in space) [“1 month” before IH2 713 (18-20]
QS:NS 1-5 (Magneto in Madripoor)
BP@2 1
CA 697-700 (Stark -BTS, after IM 600)
C 155-159 (before ASTONX4 1-12)
HFW 1 (Colossus w/X-Men, no beard Nightcrawler, Iron Man appears, Madrox dead, Magneto in Madripoor, #hotclaws Wolverine)
NM:DS 1-2
MULTM 1-5 (Madrox returns, Archangel “fine”)
DS 382-385 (Loki stops as Sorcerer Supreme, Strange gets red cloak back)
BRSCRS 8-14 [lead-in to DS:DAMN]
DS:DAMN [“a couple of weeks” after DS 383-FB]
ASTONX4 1-12 (after BB 8 & X:B 35, before OML2 31, after MULTM 1-5)
PPSSM@2 1 (after V 165, before MSM4 34 for Shocker, Strange in blue cloak)
USQG2 31
RG&GAM 1-5
X:WED, X:G 26 (1-15), X:WED /2, X:G 26 (16-20), X:G 27-29, X:WED /3 (after RG&GAM & DS:DAMN)
X:G 30 (1-28) ("Phoenix" Wolverine appears)
MR&MRSX 1 (4-10)-FB
X:G 30 (29-30)
MR&MRSX 1 (1-11)
X:G 31-32 (Psylocke Asian)
HFW:MM 1-4 (Psylocke no longer Asian)
X:G 33-35 (Rogue & Gambit already in space)
MR&MRSX 1 (12-20), 2-4, 5 (1-18) (before DDP 300)
GOTG 146-150
ICDWN:AWLOCK 1
SH 161-FB, 160-FB, SH 159-162 (She-Hulk goes back to green)
ICDWN 1-5-FBs
IH2 713 (18-21) & IH2 714-717 (1-17) (Cho & Unworthy Thor return, Alpha Flight & Capt. Marvel, Spider-Miles) (Cho powered down)
IMMH 5-FB
DDP 297-300 (Mighty Thor appears) (Vision appears, but easily malfunctions)
T 702-706 (no more Mighty Thor, Strange still a vet)
MT:GATES
ICDWNP 1 (Loki appears)
SH 163
LJAW 1-4
FCBD2018:A/CA /2
CA8 1
ASM 797-801
WH 1-2 (Strange bearded, red cloak)
HFW:AA 1-4 (before X:R 1-FB, before A7 1?)
IMMH 1
DP:ASSN 1-6 (after DDP 300)
MK 194
T5 1-2, 3-FB, THANOSLEG (8-9)-FB, T5 3-4
ICDWN:CM 1 (after CM6 129)
OML2 31-35
FCBD2018:ASM (1-9:2)
ASM5 1 (4:3)-FB
FCBD2018:ASM (9:3)
ASM5 1 (4:4)-FB
FCBD2018:ASM (9:3)
OML2 41-FB
OML2 36-38 (before DD 598)
SENTRY3 3-FB (Strange doesn't appear, but has powers)
DD 598-605 (Black Cat crimelord, after DEF 6) (Purple Man still alive) [“about a month” since DD 595 (1-5)]
BB 8 (18 - 20), 9 (1 - 8) (Titania learns about Absorbing Man)
DEF5 6 (18 - 20), 7-9
BB 9 (9 - 20), 10 (1 - 8) (Captain America (Steve) & Unworthy Thor appear)
INHS:JD (1-13)
BB 10 (9-10)
INHS:JD (14-26) ~ BB 10 (11-14)
INHS:JD (27-30)
BB 10 (15-20), 11-12 (Absorbing Man returns)
ICDWN:DD 1
V:FH 1-5
ICDWN 1-4 (Groot back to normal size)
FCBD2018:A/CA (1-10:1), A7 1-6, FCBD2018:A/CA (10:2), 8-FB (Strange bearded, blue cloak) (Avengers form, Loki goes missing)
V4 1-6, 7-FB (same time as A7 1-6)
A7 8 (1-14), A7 12-FB, [M/CP3 2/3]
DP7 1-3 (Avengers w/bearded Strange appear, Sam-as-Nova appears, normal size Groot appears)
DS 390 (Strange shaves beard, no longer a vet) [“less than 2 weeks” after DS:DAMN]
JJ 12 (9-20), 13-17 (Purple Man dies)
DEF5 10 (no beard Strange, blue cloak)
DS5 1 (1-10) (Strange loses powers)
LC 170
JJ 18 (Thing appears)
EX4 1-12
BRSCRS 18-25 (after THANOSLEG (8-9)-FB & DS5 1 (1-10))
HFW:WL 1-4 (#hotclaws Wolverine in -FB)
MK 195-196
WKNDFVR:ASM 1, WKNDFVY:X 1, WKNDFVR:A 1 (no beard Nightcrawler, green She-Hulk w/Avengers, no Strange)
V@ 1 (after DEF5 10)
OML2 39-40
SENTRY3 1-5 (Avengers, no Strange)
IMMH 2
MG&DDINO 31
OML2 41-42
WX3 17-21
OML2 43-45 [“a few weeks” since OML2 38]
DS5 1 (11-20) (Strange leaves for space)
HFW:CK 1-4 (after X:B 35, before WX3 22-27, #hotclaws Wolverine)
WH 3-7
IMMH 3
WX3 22-27 (Sabretooth bad again, after HFW:CK)
IH2 717 (18-20) [“3 months” after IH2 717 (1-17)]
DP7 4
TSIM 1
ASTONX@2 1
SM@ 1
C&DP@ 1
TSIM 2
V4 7-FB, V4 8, WOV:CRNGB 1, WOV:VU 1, V4 9-12
USQG2 32-35 [mid-August]
PPSSM 308-309 (after M/2IO 10) (before ASM5 1)
USQG2 36-40
ASM5 1 (1-30), ASM5 2-FB-FB, ASM5 1 (31-40), ASM5 2-FB, ASM5 1 (41-42), ASM5 2, 3-FB, 3-4 (Avengers) [mid-August]
USQG2 41 (during ASM5 1-5)
ASM5 5
TSIM 3
X:BLK-M
MG&DDINO 32-36 (Thunderball replaced in Wrecking Crew)
MSM4 23-24 [mid/late-August]
PPSSM 310
MSM4 25-28 [early/mid-September]
M/R 0
MSM4 29-31[mid-September]
M/R:A
M/R:SQG/MSM, M/R:SQG/MSM /2, M/R:MSM/SQG, M/R:MSM/SQG /2, M/R:O (1-28)
MSM4 32-35
DS5 2
DD 606-608 (after HFW:WL)
X:BLK-MOJO
X:B 36
X:G 36 [a month or so after X:G 35]
M/R:O (29-30)
DS5 3
ICDWN:DHAWK 1-4
ICDWN:CHMPS 1-2 (Sam stops being Nova)
ASM5 6-7
FF6 1-4 (FF return) ("Phoenix" Wolverine appears)
M/2IO 11-12
X:BLK-MSTQ
DS5 4-6, 7 (1-14) (Strange returns from space)
ASM5 8-10 (Strange appears w/Kanna) (Mr. Fantastic appears)
DS5 7 (15-20), 8 (Kanna leaves Strange)
P12 1-6 [mid/late September] (no Punisher until P12 6)
ICDWN:BW 1 (Strange in New York)
ICDWN 5
A7 8 (15-20), 9-10 (Loki returns, refers to ICDWNP 1) ("Phoenix" Wolverine leaves)
CGR 1-5
IWARSP 1
THANOSLEG
INFINITY WARS (Avengers) (Ant-Man returns to Earth)
IWARS ∞
ASGOTG 4 (12-20), 5
MSKRULLS 1-5 [early October]
ANT&WASP2 1-4, 5 (1-18) (Ant-Man back on Earth) [baseball playoffs] [early October]
RUN5 1-10 [middle of school semester]
TSIM 4
T5 8
ANT&WASP2 5 (19-20) [“2 weeks later”] [world series] [mid/late October]
MR&MRSX 5 (19-20) (Rogue & Gambit back on Earth)
A7 11
WCA3 1 (2-11)-FB
X:R 1-FB, X:R 2-3, X:R 4 (1-13), X:R 1 (no beard Nightcrawler, Gambit appears)
X:BLK-JUG
MK 197-200
CA8 2-5 [mid/late October]
DOINHS 1-5
WCA3 1 (12-15)-FB
DP7 5 [Halloween]
BPV.DP 1-5
RUN5 11
TSIM 5
SPIDER-GEDDON
MIMOSM 1-FB-FB
SGWEN:GS 4
WH 8-12 (after IWARS)
DP7 6 (FF & Doctor Strange appear)
X:R 4 (14-20), X:R 5-11 (bearded Nightcrawler, Gambit appears) (Avengers, no Strange) (Captain Marvel appears w/Avengers)
LOCM 1 (1 - 20) (no Captain Marvel appearances until this mini ends)
HFW:DE 1 (bearded Nightcrawler, #hotclaws Wolverine)
DOMINO@ 1 (after WX3 22?) (bearded Nightcrawler, Cable appears)
WCA3 1 (16-17)-FB
X-23v4 1-5
BORDER 1-5
WCA3 1 (18)-FB, WCA3 1 (19-20)-FB, WCA3 2-3-FBs, WCA3 4 (1-16), WCA3 1-3, WCA3 4 (17-18)
WCA3 5 (1:1-1:5)-FB (Namor throwing a fit)
SEASBTGS (Cable appears) (Dr. Doom appears) [late November]
ICE4 1-2
X:BLK-EFROST (bearded Nightcrawler, Rogue appears so before MR&MRSX 6)
ICE4 3-5
DOMINO3 7-10
MAJX 1-6
EXTRMNTN 1-5 (Cable dies) ("Searebro" still in Atlantis, destroyed)
X:EXTRNTD 1
NM:DS 3-6 (after EXTRMNTN, before ASTONX4 13-17)
ASTONX4 13-17 (after HFW:DE, EXTRMNTN, NM:DS, before ROW, MR&MRSX 6), UX5 (2)-FB
ROW 1-5 ("Searebro" gone, back to using Cerebro) (#hotclaws Wolverine back in action)
MSM4 36
TYPHOIDF:SM, TYPHOIDF:X, TYPHOIDF:IF
WCA3 4 (19-20)
MSM4 37
MERRYX HSPEC (Cable’s already dead, Arcade appears, Jubilee missing) (#hotclaws Wolverine in costume) [all thru December]
X-23v4 6 (after ASONX4 17) [near end of school semester]
MSM4 38
WOV:CCRNG 1
RUN5 12-14 [mid-December]
ASM5 11-13 (Arcade appears) [mid/late-December]
MERRYX HSPEC (Arcade defeated, Jubilee back) [all thru December]
DP7 7 (Santa’s missing) [December 25]
RUN5 15-19
MG&DDINO 37 (Santa’s back, Jubilee appears) [late December]
X-23v4 7-10
UX:WEND 1
OML2 46-47
MR&MRSX 6 (Rogue & Gambit vanish)
BW9 1-5 [New Year’s Eve]
SRSTAR 1-5 (after NM:DS 3-6, before XFOR5 1)
DP7 8
OML2 48-50, DML 1-12 (old man leaves, #hotclaws Wolverine appears, before UX5 1)
FNSM2 1/2, 1-5 (before ASM5 14) [January]
LOCM 1 (21 - 30), 4-5 (Captain Marvel's been out of public eye for 9 months (!))
X-23v4 11-12
???CGRDM/H 1-6???
GOTG5 1-6
DOMINO:HS 1-5
UX5 19 (3 - 8)-FB, UX5 1-9, UX@5 1, UX5 10 (1 - 27), UX5 19 (9 - 10)-FB (X-Men "die") (Captain Marvel appears by herself in space)
AOXM:MARX 5-FB-FB
W:IW 1-5 (shortly after X-Men die, after FF5 4, IWARS ∞)
XFOR5 1-6 (after UX@5 1, UX5 10)
ASM5 14-18, 18.HU, 19, 19.HU, 20, 20.HU, 21-24 (Captain Marvel appears w/Avengers) (before P12 6) (between school semesters)
UX5 19 (11 - 13)-FB
CHMPS2 22-23, 26-FB (Vision repaired) (Miles recovering) (Sam no longer Nova)
CHMPS2 24 [early-to-mid January]
CHMPS2 25-27 (after ANT&WASP2 1-5, DP7 4)
CHMPS@ 1
MIMOSM 1-FB (new school semester)
MMSM 1-4??? (new school semester)
RUN5 20-22 (new school semester)
P12 6-12 (at least 3 months since P12 1-6)
WSOL2 1-5
DP7 9 (Daredevil appears) [Valentine's]
M/K20TH 1-6 (lasts a month?)
DD 609-612 (Daredevil "dies")
MWF 1-xxx (Daredevil in hospital)
SUSM2 1-4
DS5 9-11
CM:B&M 1
A7 12, T5 9, T5 10-FB
MIMOSM 1-3 (before A7 14)
A7 14-17
USQG2 42
SUSM2 5-6
WCA3 5 (1:6-20)-FB, WCA3 6-7, WCA3 5, WCA3 8-FB, WCA3 8-10
UX5 10 (28 - 30), UX5 19 (14 - 18)-FB, UX5 11-12, 19 (19)-FB, 13-15 (weeks or months since UX5 10 (1 - 27)?)
MR&MRSX 7-10 (after UX5 11)
TSIM 6-11
CM9 1-5
MR&MRSX 11-12
MWF xxx-5 (Daredevil recovers)
ZIGGY PIG SILLY SEAL COMICS v2 #1 (Doctor Doom appears)
MIMOSM 4
DP7 10-12
M/TU4 1-3
FNSM2 6
M/R 1-5
IMMH 4-8 (after WH 12)
SS:BD 1, N:BD 1, DS:BD 1, IMMH:BD 1, DEF:BD 1
IHRT 1
CHMPS3 1-2 (Wasp appears)
UWASP2 1-7 (Nova appears) (beforeA:NRH)
CHMPS3 3-4 (8-ish days between CHMPS3 2-3) (Nova leaves, no Wasp)
UWASP2 8-9 (2 weeks after UWASP2 1)
IHRT 2-3
MG&DDINO 38-41 [a few days before summer vacation]
IHRT 4-5
INV3 1-6
MG&DDINO 42
FF5 5 (1 - 42), FFWED2, FF5 5 (43 - 60), 6-9 ["9 days" before WOTR]
T5 10 [Father’s Day?]
CA8 6 (Ross dies)
IMMH 9-13 (Ross’ spirit recently in hell)
A:NRH 1-10 (Avengers Legacy #708-717)
Hulkverines! #1-3
CA8 7 (less than a week after CA8 6, Cap learns Ross is dead)
IMMH 14-17, 18 (1 - 2) (Ross’ funeral, so about a week after CA8 6)
T5 11
ASGOTG 6-7
WAR of the REALMS


STILL TO DO:

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN v5 #25-???
BLACK PANTHER v7 #1-???
INVADERS v3 #7-???
MAGNIFICENT Ms. MARVEL #5-???
MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS v3 #1-6
PUNISHER v12 #13-???
RUNAWAYS v5 #23-???
SHURI #1-10
SPIDER-GWEN: GHOST SPIDER-#5-10
UNSTOPPABLE WASP v2 #10-???
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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Punisher returns to New York in P12 12, and P12 13 has him continuing to hunt for Strucker. There could be other appearances between P12 12-13 for Punisher, but we're still most likely before WOTR. Also, Kingpin throws the first pitch at a baseball game, so maybe early in the baseball season? April/May, maybe?

SGWEN:GS 10 has Spider-Woman (Gwen) visiting Earth-616 and chatting with Spider-Man (Peter). During a school semester, so probably before WOTR.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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So far, only a handful of the stories in M/CP3 are set in the modern day.

M/CP3 1/3 features Captain America and Iron Man. Cap helps a teenager fix up her dirt bike.

M/CP3 2/3 features Gorilla Man and Black Panther, and StrayLamb already pointed out a spot where it can go.

M/CP3 3/3 features Spider-Man and Doctor Voodoo; Voodoo helps Spider-Man get out of a dream spell he’s trapped in.

M/CP3 4/3 features Moon Knight killing an evil guy on life support.

M/CP3 6/3 features Danny Ketch as the Ghost Rider; Johnny Blaze is still in charge of hell.

M/CP3 4-6 were published at the same time as WOTR. I’m willing to say M/CP3 6/3 is before the crossover, and that #7 onward will all be after.

I’m not sure about M/CP3 5/3. It has Eddie Brock trying to stop the symbiote from eating brains. When was the last time that was the case? 2003? This has to be in the past, right?
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Col_Fury wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:02 amM/CP3 1/3 features Captain America and Iron Man. Cap helps a teenager fix up her dirt bike.
Iron Man is in the armor he was usng around the Age of Heroes, so after IIM 25. Suggested placement would be between IIM 33 & NA 8 for both Iron Man & Captain America.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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Hey

I can't seem to find ASGOTG 1 - 4(1-11). Is it my eyes, or hasn't it been placed yet
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It's during INFINITY WARS, inside the linked item two rows above ASGOTG 4 (12-20), 5.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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Thanks

I just tried to delete my post as I found it. Missed it burried in infinity wars
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No worries! :thumbsup:
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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SHURI 1 (1-3) has Black Panther going into space and then goes missing. SHURI 1 (4-20) is two weeks later and Black Panther being missing is not public knowledge yet. #2 is the same day and Storm appears (published the same month as UX5 1-3). #3 is the same day and Rocket Raccoon and Groot appear. Groot is normal size, so at least after ICDWN 1. Also, before GOTG5 1, where Rocket has already left the Guardians. #4 is the same day, Storm is still around and Shuri calls Iron Man. SHURI 5 (1-17) is the next day. SHURI 5 (18-20) is two weeks later and Shuri re-becomes the Black Panther.

SHURI 6 refers to #5’s adventure as “recent,” but that was at least two weeks ago. So maybe #6 is the day after #5’s end? Or, since she’s not in her Black Panther get-up in this story maybe we’re during the two weeks gap in #5? Spider-Miles appears, during a school semester. A footnote says to check out WCA3 to see why Graviton’s on the West Coast these days, but I don’t think that means this issue is after WCA3. Ms. Marvel also appears. SHURI 7 (1-17) is the same day, and SHURI 7 (18-20) is a week later.

SHURI 8 seems to pick up shortly after #5’s end, so maybe #6-7 does happen during the gap in #5? #8-9 happen in a day, Storm appears again, and ends on a cliffhanger; #10 will be the book’s last issue. Black Panther’s still missing.

BP7 1-12 are all off in space but T’Challa finally gets his memory back in #12, so that’s nice.

Storm, Shuri and Ramonda appear in BP7 13 and finally make contact with T’Challa. A footnote refers to SHURI 1-5, but I’m willing to bet that this happens after SHURI 10.

If we do this:

ICDWN 1-4 (Groot back to normal size)
……
BP7 12 (12:4-14:3)-FB
SHURI 1 (1-3) (T’Challa goes missing)
BP7 12 (15:3-17)-FB
……
SHURI 1 (4-20), 2-4, 5 (1-17) (normal size Groot, Rocket Raccoon, Storm appear) [2 weeks after 1 (1-3)]
SHURI 6-7 (Miles, Ms. Marvel appear) [lasts a week, during a school semester]
SHURI 5 (18-20) [2 weeks after 5 (1-17)]
SHURI 8-10 (Storm appears)
BP7 1-13 (Storm appears) (T’Challa eventually returns)
……
GOTG5 1-6 (Rocket Raccoon has already left team)
DOMINO:HS 1-5
UX5 19 (3 - 8)-FB, UX5 1-9, UX@5 1, UX5 10 (1 - 27), UX5 19 (9 - 10)-FB (X-Men "die")

Then T’Challa is only missing for about a month.

Now I have to poke around for Black Panther appearances to see where this can fit.
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After ICDWN 1 and before GOTG5 1 / UX5 1, T’Challa appears in:

ICDWN 1-4 (after this)
……
FCBD2018:A/CA (1-10:1), A7 1-6, FCBD2018:A/CA (10:2), 8-FB
V4 1-6, 7-FB (same time as A7 1-6)
A7 8 (1-14), A7 12-FB, [M/CP3 2/3]
DP7 1-3
DS 390 (Strange shaves beard, no longer a vet) [“less than 2 weeks” after DS:DAMN]
JJ 12 (9-20), 13-17 (Purple Man dies)

DEF5 10
……
WKNDFVR:ASM 1, WKNDFVY:X 1, WKNDFVR:A 1
……
USQG2 36-40
ASM5 1 (1-30), ASM5 2-FB-FB, ASM5 1 (31-40), ASM5 2-FB, ASM5 1 (41-42), ASM5 2, 3-FB, 3-4
……
FF6 1-4
M/2IO 11-12
X:BLK-MSTQ
DS5 4-6, 7 (1-14) (Strange returns from space)

ASM5 8-10
……
A7 8 (15-20), 9-10 (Loki returns, refers to ICDWNP 1) ("Phoenix" Wolverine leaves)
CGR 1-5
IWARSP 1
THANOSLEG

INFINITY WARS (Avengers) (Ant-Man returns to Earth)
……
A7 11
WCA3 1 (2-11)-FB
X:R 1-FB, X:R 2-3, X:R 4 (1-13), X:R 1
X:BLK-JUG
MK 197-200

CA8 2-5 [mid/late October]
DOINHS 1-5
WCA3 1 (12-15)-FB
DP7 5 [Halloween]

BPV.DP 1-5
……
LOCM 1
……
ASTONX4 13-17
……
GOTG5 1-6 (before this)
DOMINO:HS 1-5
UX5 19 (3 - 8)-FB, UX5 1-9, UX@5 1, UX5 10 (1 - 27), UX5 19 (9 - 10)-FB (X-Men "die")

It’s not quite “a month,” but the best spot I’m seeing is after ASTONX4 13 and before GOTG5 1. Hopefully, whenever T’Challa ends up returning in BP7 doesn’t throw a wrench in there. Also, it looks like we'll learn why Rocket Raccoon left the Guardians in GOTG5 7, so hopefully that doesn't mess anything up either.
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If Captain Marvel can be away in space for nine months one afternoon, i'm sure Black Panther can be as well. Chalk it up to timestream anomolies.
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StrayLamb wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:20 am If Captain Marvel can be away in space for nine months one afternoon, i'm sure Black Panther can be as well. Chalk it up to timestream anomolies.
The problem isn't the events of BP7, where T'Challa's off in the future (or whatever) for years. The problem is the events of Shuri, which take place *in the MU while T'Challa is missing* (a status not reflected in any other book).
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Yep, that's true. What i meant was that i don't see a problem with squeezing down the month or so that occurs during Shuri into a much shorter time-frame.
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WOTR:O has Punisher starting a mission to hunt down Frost Giants and Orcs and stuff following/shortly after the crossover, which will be continued in PKK 1-5 (Punisher Kill Krew). He's still hunting down Hydra scum over in his regular book (which is an extended follow-up to the last crossover), so my guess is he'll have to finish that plot before WOTR happens.
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Re: SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

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ASM5 25 (1-31) is still "days" after ASM5 23. Spider-Man is looking for the missing Lizard, and the mystery villain gives Mysterio more grief. Also, ASM5 25 (32-45) is shortly after (a few days, maybe) and is at the start of a school semester. Ends on a cliffhanger of sorts, but hopefully will be able to be separated fro next issue.

ASM5 25/2 can happen at any time, really, and features Doctor Strange in his current space suit. Heck, it may even be after WOTR.

ASM5 25/3 is not 616.

Also, I forgot that SHURI 1-10 is during a school semester, so between LOCM 1 and ASTONX4 13 it is.

Also also, unless there's a major shakeup I'll only be editing the following post for updates instead of posting an entirely new one.
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