SECRET EMPIRE to WAR of the REALMS

[Col_Fury]

Might as well get this one started.

Fair warning, though. This one’s going to take a while to nail down; not everything’s been published yet that will end up occurring before INFINITY WARS (despite IWARS 1 already being on the stands). For example, I’m willing to bet that RETURN OF WOLVERINE (ROW) happens before IWARS, but we’ll find out as more comics are published.

The solicit for ASGARDIANS OF THE GALAXY says “spinning out of the events of INFINTY WARS” so I’m assuming it happens after (or maybe during?) the crossover, but I’m mentioning it now, just in case, for whatever reason it doesn’t.

Again, I’ve read very little of any of this.

SECRET EMPIRE
???
INFINITY WARS

TO DO:

ALL-NEW GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #1-2, 4-8, 10-12
ALL-NEW WOLVERINE #25-35
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #789-801
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN v4 #32
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN v5 #1-???
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL #42
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL v5 #1
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN: VENOM INC. ALPHA & OMEGA
AMERICA #7-12
ANT-MAN & WASP v2 #1-5
ANT-MAN & WASP: LIVING LEGENDS #1
ASTONISHING X-MEN v4 #1-???
ASTONISHING X-MEN ANNUAL v2 #1
AVENGERS #672-690
AVENGERS v6 #11
AVENGERS v7 #1-???
AVENGERS HALLOWEEN SPECIAL
AVENGERS: SHARDS OF INFINITY #1
BEN REILLY: SCARLET SPIDER #8-???
BLACK BOLT #1-12
BLACK PANTHER #166-172
BLACP PANTHER v6 #12-18
BLACK PANTHER v7 #1-???
BLACK PANTHER ANNUAL v2 #1
BLACK PANTHER: SOUND & FURY #1
BLACK PANTHER vs. DEADPOOL #1-5
CABLE #150-159
CABLE v4 #1-5
CABLE & DEADPOOL ANNUAL #1
CAPTAIN AMERICA #695-704
CAPTAIN AMERICA v8 #1-???
CAPTAIN AMERICA ANNUAL v2 #1
CAPTAIN MARVEL v6 #125-129
CHAMPIONS v2 #12-???
COSMIC GHOST RIDER #1-5
DAMNATION: JOHNNY BLAZE, GHOST RIDER #1
DAREDEVIL #595-???
DAREDEVIL v5 #26-28
DAREDEVIL ANNUAL v5 #1
DARKHAWK #51
DAZZLER: X-SONG #1
DEADPOOL v6 #36
DEADPOOL v7 #1-???
DEADPOOL vs. OLD MAN LOGAN #1-5
DEADPOOL: ASSASSIN #1-6
DEATH OF THE INHUMANS #1-5
DEFENDERS v5 #3-10
DESPICABLE DEADPOOL #287-300
DOCTOR STRANGE #381-390
DOCTOR STRANGE v4 #25-26
DOCTOR STRANGE v5 #1-???
DOCTOR STRANGE: DAMNATION #1-4
DOMINO v3 #1-???
DOMINO ANNUAL #1
EDGE OF SPIDER-GEDDON #1-4
EDGE OF VENOMVERSE #1-5
EXILES v4 #1-???
EXTERMINATION #1-5
FALCON v2 #1-8
FANTASTIC FOUR v6 #1-???
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2017: ALL-NEW GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (first story)
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2018: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (both stories)
FREE COMIC BOOK DAY 2018: AVENGERS (both stories)
GENERATION X #85-87
GENERATION X v2 #8-9
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY #145-150
HAWKEYE v5 #12-16
HULK v4 #11
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE #1
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: ADAMANTIUM AGENDA #1-4
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: CLAWS OF A KILLER #1-4
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: DEAD ENDS #1
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: MYSTERY IN MADRIPOOR #1-4
HUNT FOR WOLVERINE: WEAPON LOST #1-4
ICEMAN v3 #6-11
ICEMAN v4 #1-???
IMMORTAL HULK #1-???
INCREDIBLE HULK v2 #709-717
INFINITY COUNTDOWN #1-5
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: ADAM WARLOCK #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: BLACK WIDOW #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: CHAMPIONS #1-2
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: DAREDEVIL #1
INFINITY COUNTDOWN: DARKHAWK #1-4
INFINITY COUNTDOWN PRIME #1
INHUMANS: JUDGMENT DAY #1
IRON FIST #73-80
IRON FIST v5 #1-7
IRON MAN #593-600
JEAN GREY #4-11
JESSICA JONES #12-18
LEGION #1-5
LIFE OF CAPTAIN MARVEL #1-5
LOCKJAW #1-4
LUKE CAGE #1-5, 166-170
MARVEL RISING #0, ALPHA, OMEGA
MARVEL RISING: Ms. MARVEL/SQUIRREL GIRL #1
MARVEL RISING: SQUIRREL GIRL/Ms. MARVEL #1
MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE v2 #1-???
MARVEL TWO-IN-ONE ANNUAL v2 #1
MASTER OF KUNG-FU #126
MIGHTY CAPTAIN MARVEL #9
MIGHTY THOR v2 #20-23
MIGHTY THOR: AT THE GATES OF VALHALLA #1
MOON GIRL & DEVIL DINOSAUR #19-???
MOON KNIGHT #188-???
Mr. & Mrs. X #1-???
Ms. MARVEL v4 #19-???
MULTIPLE MAN #1-???
NEW MUTANTS: DEAD SOULS #1-???
OLD MAN LOGAN v2 #25-???
OLD MAN LOGAN ANNUAL #1
PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN #297-???
PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN v2 #6
PETER PARKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL v3 #1
PHOENIX RESURRECTION: RETURN OF JEAN GREY #1-5
POWER PACK #63
PUNISHER #218-228
PUNISHER v11 #16-17
PUNISHER v12 #1-???
QUICKSILVER: NO SURRENDER #1-5
RETURN OF WOLVERINE #1-5
ROGUE & GAMBIT #1-5
ROYALS #9-12
RUNAWAYS v5 #1-???
SECRET WARRIORS v2 #6-12
SENTRY v3 #1-???
SHATTERSTAR #1-5
SHE-HULK #159-163
SHURI #1
SILVER SABLE & THE WILD PACK #36
SILVER SURFER ANNUAL v2 #1
SPIDER-FORCE #0-3
SPIDER-GIRLS #1-3
SPIDER-GWEN v2 #25-34
SPIDER-GWEN AKA GHOST-SPIDER #1-???
SPIDER-MAN v2 #16-21, 234-240
SPIDER-MAN ANNUAL #1
SPIDER-MAN/DEADPOOL #23-???
SPIDER-MEN II #1-5
SPIRITS OF VENGEANCE #1-5
SUPERIOR OCTOPUS #1-???
TALES OF SUSPENSE #100-104
THANOS v2 #13-18
THANOS ANNUAL v3 #1
THANOS LEGACY #1
THOR #700-706
THOR v5 #1-???
TONY STARK: IRON MAN #1-???
TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #23
TYPHOID FEVER: SPIDER-MAN #1
UNBEATABLE SQUIRREL GIRL v2 #22-???
UNBELIEVABLE GWENPOOL #21-25
UNCANNY AVENGERS v3 #26-30
UNSTOPPABLE WASP v2 #1-???
U.S. AVENGERS #10-12
VAULT OF SPIDERS #1-2
VENOM #155-165
VENOM v4 #1-???
VENOM ANNUAL #1
VENOM: FIRST HOST #1-5
VENOMIZED #1-5
VENOMVERSE #1-5
VENOMVERSE: WAR STORIES #1
WAKANDA FOREVER: AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #1
WAKANDA FOREVER: AVENGERS #1
WAKANDA FOREVER: X-MEN #1
WEAPON H #1-???
WEAPON X v3 #7-???
WEB OF VENOM: VE’NAM #1
WEST COAST AVENGERS v3 #1-???
X-23 v4 #1-???
X-MEN BLACK: EMMA FROST
X-MEN BLACK: JUGGERNAUT
X-MEN BLACK: MAGNETO
X-MEN BLACK: MOJO
X-MEN BLACK: MYSTIQUE
X-MEN: BLUE #10-36
X-MEN: BLUE ANNUAL #1
X-MEN: GOLD #9-36
X-MEN: GOLD ANNUAL #1
X-MEN: RED #1-???
X-MEN: RED ANNUAL #1
X-MEN: WEDDING SPECIAL #1
YOU ARE DEADPOOL #1-5

Have fun!

[Russ Chappell]

Beware You Are Deadpool.

[Col_Fury]

I see a conversation that makes it sound non-canon, but I'm reluctant to take it off the list until I've read it. I see it's already on the FAQ's non-canon list, so I'm sure it's not. But still.

Also, here are some relevant conversations from elsewhere:

DEF5 3 (10-20) & 4-5 continue into #6 where Black Cat is put onto a coma. She’s still in a coma in #7 where Daredevil is back into his red suit which basically means we’re past SECRET EMPIRE. *sigh*

I think we’re going to have to say that DEF5 3 (7-9) spans “months.” Daredevil is still wearing his black suit in DEF5 6 and there is a short break between #6-7, but that would mean Black Cat is in a coma during SECRET EMPIRE (also, Hammerhead’s club is wrecked in #4-6 and is still wrecked in #7). Apparently Black Cat decides to go straight in DEF5 10 which is obviously after SECRET EMPIRE. So really, DEF5 4-10 have to be Black Cat’s last appearances as a crime lord.

I don’t see any appearances of Black Cat or Hammerhead during SECRET EMPIRE. In theory, DEF5 4-6 could be Black Cat’s last appearance before SECRET EMPIRE and then DEF5 7-10 could happen after the crossover, as long as there aren’t any appearances of her as a crime lord after SECRET EMPIRE. I see she’s in some issues of AMERICA, V3 and SM2 that I haven’t read yet. Is she a crime lord in any of those, and are they post-SECRET EMPIRE?

The Black Cat appears as a crimelord in the Venom Inc crossover- and she quits being a crimelord in those issues AGAIN. Venom Inc is definitely after Secret Empire- the Secret Empire issues of Amazing Spider-Man are 29-31, and the Venom Inc issues of Amazing Spider-Man are 792-793. (Amazing Spider-Man 789 follows issue 32- am I the only one who finds these number switches annoying?) And further confusing the issue, she's in a meeting of crimelords in Daredevil 600, which is also post-Secret Empire. And just to confuse things further, FCBD: Amazing Spider-Man takes place before Daredevil 601 according to a footnote, which means it has to take place before Daredevil 600, since the Kingpin appears in FCBD: Amazing Spider-Man, and he's hospitalized during issue 601 from injuries received in issue 600. The problem is FCBD: Amazing Spider-Man also takes place after Venom Inc.

Black Cat is a crime-lord in the Spider-Miles issues, Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man 300/2, and Daredevil 598-603, and counting. The Daredevil issues occur about one month after Fisk becomes Mayor (according to the story).

In Daredevil 600, Black Cat arrives at Sarno’s, where she comments that she sees Diamondback there, a man who tried to kill her, and Hammerhead, a man who, last she checked, works for her.. so after Defenders 5.

Black Cat is still a Crime-Lord thru Venom, Inc., but although Michael suggests above that she stops being a Crime-Lord here, what actually happens is her warehouse is trashed, and Eddie Brock suggests she give up her life of crime, as the city needs heroes. There's no evidence here that she has given it up at this point, but he plants the seed in her mind.

Black Cat continues to be a Crime-Lord in Despicable Deadpool 297, where aboard Tombstone’s luxury yacht, the Queen Kathleen, he hosts a casino for Black Cat, Hammerhead, Typhoid May, Stilt-Man, Max Dillon, aka Electro, who has managed to return from the dead, Diamondback, Jack O’Lantern, and Lady Stilt-Man.

I think there's a significant break between Defenders 9 & 10, during which Black Bolt 9 (9-20), issues 10-12, plus Inhumans: Judgment Day must occur, due to references to Crusher Creel's funeral. Much of the other material containing Black Cat could also go in this gap. Defenders 10 has to go last, as this is where Black Cat decides to give up her life of crime.

Black Bolt 9 (1-8) - Titania learns of Creel's death.

Defenders 8 - Titania is dealing with the death of Creel. Daredevil reveals his identity to the Defenders. Throughout the Daredevil issues, the Defenders are unaware of his identity.

Defenders 9 - They definitively take down Diamondback, who is out and about during the Daredevil issues. Black Cat surrenders to Luke Cage, telling him her criminal days are over..

Black Bolt 9 (9-20) - Creel's funeral, attended by Thor Odinson and Captain America (Steve Rogers). This issue leads immediately into the following in quick succession..

Black Bolt 10 (1-8)
Inhumans: Judgment Day 1 (1-13)
Black Bolt 10 (9-10)
Inhumans: Judgment Day 1 (14-26) ~ Black Bolt 10 (11-14)
Inhumans: Judgment Day 1 (27-30)
Black Bolt 10 (15-20)
Black Bolt 11 - Creel rises from the grave
Black Bolt 12 (1-16)
Black Bolt 12 (17-20) - a week later

Defenders 10 - Black Cat is in remand, where she has been since Defenders 9.

Also,

……
SM2 16 (Ironheart appears in fancy suit)
SM2 17 (1-12) (day after last issue)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
……
SM2 20-FB (“that Hydra thing” mentioned; after SECEMP?)
SM2 20-21 (“two weeks after” SM2 20-FB) (SHIELD no longer around, after SECEMP)

Goldballs appears in SMENII 1-5 (at least in #1) (who went missing in SM2 19) and it’s also mentioned that SHIELD is no longer around (in #4). So, SMENII 1-5 is after SECEMP and since Goldballs appears, SM2 16 is after SECEMP as well.

[Somebody]

The (good) resolution to You Are Deadpool outright flaunts its non-canonicity.

ALL-NEW WOLVERINE #25-35

#33-35 ("Old Woman Laura") is 100% alternate future.

[StrayLamb]

Wow - no rest for the weary - i'm only about half way thru reading this section myself, so i'll follow along, nipping at the Colonel's heels.

[Col_Fury]

Cap appears at Absorbing Man’s funeral in BB 9 (see below). Cap is already on his road trip in M/:LEG 1, which continues in CA 695-700.

CA 695 is one day. CA 696 is one day, some time later. CA 697 is another day and overlaps with CA 700 (due to time travel). CA 698-700 is an alternate future starring an alternate Cap that saves our Cap from the same fate. CA 701-704 is a different alternate future. There are some -FBs in CA 701-704 that are Earth-616 but we can worry about those later.

SMENII 1-5 (and its various -FBs) happen over a week.
-SHIELD is casually mentioned as being around in early issues and definitely mentioned as no longer being around in later issues. Maybe calling SHIELD for help was just a habit? And this is shortly after SECEMP?
-Peter mentions that his life is a mess right now, which could be a vague reference to the Fall of Parker storyline, or fallout his company suffered as a result of SECEMP, or it could just be a “Spider-Man’s life is always a mess at any given moment” thing.
-the Ultimate Universe is revealed to be back and OK, complete with previously thought dead characters (Captain America, Giant-Man, etc.). However, over in ULTS² 8-9 & 100 (during SECEMP, so before this) the Maker brings back the Ultimates who REMEMBER dying, so it really is them. In those issues, the Maker seemingly kills the revived Captain America for talking back. And yet, Ultimate Cap appears in SMENII 5 just fine. Maybe the Maker didn’t kill him but was torturing him? Or when the Maker was defeated in ULTS² 100 Ultimate Cap’s “death” was undone? Or something?
-Goldballs & Jessica Jones appear.

SM2 16 (Ironheart appears in fancy suit)
SM2 17 (1-12) (day after last issue)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
……
SM2 20-FB (soon after SM2 19 according to later issues)
SM2 20-21 (“two weeks after” SM2 20-FB) (Miles loses web-shooters) (Cable appears)
……
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Tony Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) (3 or 5 days long)
……
SM2 240 (“weeks” after SM2 240-FB) (Miles wakes up from injuries; no appearances for him elsewhere) (Tony Stark appears) (Spider-Parker appears) (Captain America -BTS, but is it Steve or Sam?)

All published after U.S.A 12 for Red Hulk.

SM2 239-240 were published at the same time as CHMPS2 19-20. Also, SM2 239 was published at the same time as C 156, and SM2 21 at the same time as C 150. Also, SM2 240 the same month as IM 600 & ASM 800. Also, SMII 1-5 at the same time as ASM4 30-ASM 791. Also, Cable appears in DDP 287-291, published around this time as well.

All of this is after at least SM2 16-19, because of overlap with DEF5 4-FB:

BB 1-7 (Absorbing Man dies)
ROYALS 9-12 (after BB 6)
BB 8, 9 (1-8) (Titania learns about Absorbing Man)
DEF5 3 (10-20), 4-9 (Daredevil goes from Black suit to red suit)
BB 9 (9-20), 10 (1-8) (Captain America (Steve) appears)
INHS:JD (1-13)
BB 10 (9-10)
INHS:JD (14-26) ~ BB 10 (11-14)
INHS:JD (27-30)
BB 10 (15-20), 11-12 (Absorbing Man returns)
DEF5 10

Does all of this happen during the “two weeks” between SM2 20-FB & SM2 20? Or during the “weeks” between SM2 240-FB & SM2 240? I dunno yet.

Tony Stark appears in SM2 240, but is noted as “gone” in SM2 234-239. Stark’s body went missing in M/:LEG 1. Depending on how long that plot takes to wrap up (in IM 593-600) things might get tricky, but it looks like at least IM 600 happens between SM2 240-FB & SM2 240.

SM@ 1 was published three months after SM2 240; Miles has his web-shooters back. Happens over maybe ten minutes. Let’s talk about the flashback elsewhere.

SM@ 1/2 takes place in an afternoon; Ganke takes a driving test.

[StrayLamb]

Just thought i'd throw in a few other appearances of Spider-Miles at this point..

He appears in Champions 12, 13-15 + Avengers 672-674 in the Champions/Avengers crossover.
Also Avengers 675-690 (No Surrender), Champions 16-21, X-Men Gold 15, Jessica Jones 18, Incredible Hulk 714-717, and Invincible Iron Man 596-600

[Col_Fury]

Just thought I'd throw in a few other appearances of Spider-Miles … and Invincible Iron Man 596-600

…of course he does. Eh, hopefully there's a gap in there somewhere.

Also:

Peter is crashing at Mockingbird’s place in ASM 789 and has been for “weeks.” They agreed to go on a date if they survived SECEMP (which they mention has already happened in ASM 789), so we’re at least “weeks” past the crossover. Parker Industries is basically kaput by the time ASM 789 starts.

ASM 790 has the last of Parker Industries being liquidated to settle lawsuits and preparing to sell the Baxter Building. Joe Robertson offers Peter a job at the Daily Bugle.

A6 11 has the Baxter Building already sold, very suddenly (likely very shortly after ASM 790). Sam has already ceded Captainship back to Steve (which happened in GENS:CA:SAMW&CA:SR).

ASM 791 has Peter on his first day at his new Bugle job.

U.S.A 10-FB has Captain Britain and other European super heroes cleaning up Hydra cells. Then, U.S.A 10-12 happens pretty quickly; Sunspot’s team rescues Cannonball and it’s pretty great.

Red Hulk was stuck in his Hulk form during SECEMP (previously he could only be Red Hulk for an hour at a time); he’s reverted and powered down un U.S.A 10. He’s eventually completely cured in A 680-something (I haven’t read those yet). Red Hulk appears in SM2 234-239 as Red Hulk four hourS at a time, so that has to happen before U.S.A 10.

So, it looks like there’ll have to be a decent gap between U.S.A 10-FB and U.S.A 10.

[StrayLamb]

Peter is crashing at Mockingbird’s place in ASM 789 and has been for “weeks.”

Pete also appears to still be crashing with Mockinbird during Spider-Man/Deadpool up to at least #36 and counting..

Red Hulk was stuck in his Hulk form during SECEMP (previously he could only be Red Hulk for an hour at a time); he’s reverted and powered down un U.S.A 10. He’s eventually completely cured in A 680-something (I haven’t read those yet). Red Hulk appears in SM2 234-239 as Red Hulk four hourS at a time, so that has to happen before U.S.A 10.

So, it looks like there’ll have to be a decent gap between U.S.A 10-FB and U.S.A 10.

In Spider-Men II 2, Jessica Jones tells Peter and Miles that she's conducted an exhaustive search, which included contact with Dazzler, the Hand, Spider-Woman, back to wearing her old costume, who had just beaten down the Jester, the Red Hulk (General Robert Maverick), the Blob, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, and Viper. But is she telling the truth.?

Red Hulk's gamma powers fade out completely in A 685 (No Surrender - which happens in a day or so if i remember correctly, and is a great story )

[Col_Fury]

IM 593 (1-9) leads directly into M/:LEG 1. IM 593 (10-16) happens directly after M/:LEG 1. This is where the comatose Tony Stark goes missing. Stark’s board of directors plan to take over the company on “Monday.”

IM 593 (17:1) has the Defenders looking for Tony Stark. Daredevil is in his red suit, so after DEF5 9.

IM 593 (17:2) has the Champions looking for Tony Stark. Spider-Miles appears.

IM 593 (18:1) has the Avengers looking for Tony Stark. Sam is the Falcon again, so after at least A6 11.

IM 593 (18:2) has the Ultimates looking for Tony Stark.

IM 593 (19-22) has the real Tony Stark waking up from stasis somewhere.

IM 594-597 has the board of directors seizing Stark assets, but this can’t be the “Monday” following IM 593 (1-9). Maybe things got delayed when the board found out the comatose Tony was missing? Captain America (Steve) and Spider-Miles appear in #595.

IM 598 picks up shortly after #597; Tony seems better now (but not publicly).

IM 599 has Tony telling his birth mother that he’s alive. Tony’s birth father revealed to be alive.

IM 600 picks up from #599’s end. Spider-Miles appears here CLEARLY after SM2 240’s end (alongside his parents and Cable). It looks like there’s going to have to be a gap between IM 598-599:

IM 593 (1-9) \ M/:LEG \ IM 593 (10-16) (Stark’s body goes missing) (Steve already on his road trip)
CA 695-697, CA 700 (Steve on road trip)
SM2 16 (Ironheart appears in fancy suit)
SM2 17 (1-12) (day after last issue)
DEF5 4 (1-4)-FB
SM2 17 (13-20)
DEF5 4 (6-10)-FB (Defenders already a thing)
SM2 18-19 (Goldballs goes missing)
DEF5 3 (10-20), 4-9 (Daredevil goes from Black suit to red suit)
IM 593 (17-18) (DD red suit, Sam is Falcon (after A6 11), Spider-Miles) (however long this takes)
SM2 20-FB (soon after SM2 19 according to later issues)
SM2 20-21 (“two weeks after” SM2 20-FB) (Miles loses web-shooters) (Cable appears)
IM 594 (19-22), 595-598 (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Tony Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) (3 or 5 days long)
SM2 240 (“weeks” after SM2 240-FB) (Miles wakes up from injuries; no appearances for him elsewhere) (Tony Stark appears) (Spider-Parker appears) (Captain America (Steve)-BTS)
IM 599-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)

Jah?

[StrayLamb]

IM 594 (19-22), 595-598 (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Tony Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) (3 or 5 days long)
SM2 240 (“weeks” after SM2 240-FB) (Miles wakes up from injuries; no appearances for him elsewhere) (Tony Stark appears) (Spider-Parker appears) (Captain America (Steve)-BTS)
IM 599-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)

A better break here, at least for the continuity of events occuring in Invincible Iron Man, might be between IM 598-FB and IM 597..

IM 593 (19-22), 594-596, 598-FB (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Tony Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) (3 or 5 days long)
SM2 240 (“weeks” after SM2 240-FB) (Miles wakes up from injuries; no appearances for him elsewhere) (Tony Stark appears) (Spider-Parker appears) (Captain America (Steve)-BTS)
IM 597-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)

IM 597 begins a new sequence, with Dr Doom visiting his mother's grave in Latveria, and Riri returning to MIT, where she meets Toni, Madison, and Arno.

[Antonio Gaviño]

Col_Fury wrote:
IM 593 (1-9) \ M/:LEG \ IM 593 (10-16) (Stark’s body goes missing) (Steve already on his road trip)

I wonder how you are reconciling the fact that M/:LEG shows Sam still being Captain America and using the shield and Steve on the road with the shield in his backpack. I am of the idea that some scenes are either flashbacks or flash forwards.
Also, you are separating IM 593 (10-16) from IM 593 (17-22) when the narrative suggests it all happens continuously. I think determining which scenes are out of sequence in M/: LEG would help to avoid doing that. All the scenes drawn by Esad Ribić and Steve McNiven in M/:LEG are a continuous sequence, that’s for sure.

[StrayLamb]

I wonder how you are reconciling the fact that M/:LEG shows Sam still being Captain America and using the shield and Steve on the road with the shield in his backpack. I am of the idea that some scenes are either flashbacks or flash forwards.

At the beginning of the sequence where Thor and Sam Wilson battle the small Frost Giants, a crate breaks open, which contains a Captain America shield; Sam starts using the shield during the battle, assuming it to be an old prototype (M/:LEG page 16). Sam is also still wearing his Cap suit in PPSSM 1.

Also, you are separating IM 593 (10-16) from IM 593 (17-22) when the narrative suggests it all happens continuously. I think determining which scenes are out of sequence in M/: LEG would help to avoid doing that. All the scenes drawn by Esad Ribić and Steve McNiven in M/:LEG are a continuous sequence, that’s for sure.

My take is that the narrative on pages 17-18 is an immediate continuation of the dialogue on pages 10-16, where Friday says she's alerted Tony's friends, but that the artwork on those two pages, which is a montage of scenes showing Tony's friends searching for him, could be occuring at any time between there and IM 594.

[Col_Fury]

Col_Fury wrote:
IM 593 (1-9) \ M/:LEG \ IM 593 (10-16) (Stark’s body goes missing) (Steve already on his road trip)

I wonder how you are reconciling the fact that M/:LEG shows Sam still being Captain America and using the shield and Steve on the road with the shield in his backpack.

That's a prototype shield Sam's using in M/:LEG; he found it on page 16 (he makes a comment about it in the last panel). Steve already has his back and is on the road on page 18. Also, Sam and Jane are chatting about how Sam is retiring as Cap in the first two panels of page 16 ("one last spin in the threads" (I'm paraphrasing)).

I am of the idea that some scenes are either flashbacks or flash forwards.

Personally, I've never been keen on the idea of flashforwards unless they're either expressly time travel things or there's just no other way to make something work.

Also, you are separating IM 593 (10-16) from IM 593 (17-22) when the narrative suggests it all happens continuously. I think determining which scenes are out of sequence in M/: LEG would help to avoid doing that. All the scenes drawn by Esad Ribić and Steve McNiven in M/:LEG are a continuous sequence, that’s for sure.

Yep. I'm suggesting we chop IM 593 into little pieces.

In theory, Stark's people searched for the missing Tony on their own first (off-panel between pages 16-17) and when they came up dry asked others for help (the result of which is seen on pages 16-17, but that doesn't mean pages 16-17 are all happening at the same time. It could be spread out over days or weeks).

IM 594 (19-22), 595-598 (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Tony Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) (3 or 5 days long)
SM2 240 (“weeks” after SM2 240-FB) (Miles wakes up from injuries; no appearances for him elsewhere) (Tony Stark appears) (Spider-Parker appears) (Captain America (Steve)-BTS)
IM 599-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)

A better break here, at least for the continuity of events occuring in Invincible Iron Man, might be between IM 598-FB and IM 597..

IM 594 (19-22), 595-596, 598-FB (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)
SM2 234-239 & 240-FB (Goldballs returns) (SHIELD is gone a recent-ish thing) (still no web-shooters) (Tony Stark “gone”) (Red Hulk appears) (Cable appears again) (after INFIM, Lucia von Bardas appears) (Champions appear) (3 or 5 days long)
SM2 240 (“weeks” after SM2 240-FB) (Miles wakes up from injuries; no appearances for him elsewhere) (Tony Stark appears) (Spider-Parker appears) (Captain America (Steve)-BTS)
IM 597-600 (Spider-Miles & Cable appear together)

IM 597 begins a new sequence, with Dr Doom visiting his mother's grave in Latveria, and Riri returning to MIT, where she meets Toni, Madison, and Arno.

Cool, yeah. That works for me.

Also:

CHMPS2 12 happens in a day.

A 672-674 / CHMPS2 13-15 happens pretty quickly. Sam is already back to being the Falcon. Mighty Thor and Spider-Miles appear. Published at the same time as SM2 21 & 234-235 but Miles still has web-shooters here, so before SM2 20-FB?

CHMPS2 16-18 happen within days of CHMPS2 15. Also, Cyclops leaves the team.

JJ 12 (9-20) & 13-17 happens pretty quickly. Also, Kraven appears (same month as CA 697). This doesn’t have to be shortly after SECEMP, but it’s likely before DEF5 4-9.

JJ 18 happens at some later point and is after SM2 234-235 (direct reference). Old Man Logan appears (same as OML2 36-37). Spider-Man appears (same as ASM 797 & PPSSM 301-302). Quicksand appears, so definitely after ASM 791.

UA3 26-29 happens over two days at some point after ICE3 5 thanks to Juggernaut. It really seems like it’s the day after the Darkforce dome came down. Human Torch becomes a billionaire and a lot of fuss is made over the paperwork (and that Johnny’s flaky).

UA3 30 starts at some later point after UA3 29, and says that Human Torch became a billionaire after ASM 790, but ASM 789 is at least “weeks” after the Darkforce dome came down. Synapse wakes up from the injuries she sustained in UA3 29.

I’m going to say it took Johnny “weeks” to finalize the paperwork for the billions he inherited and missed his opportunity to buy the Baxter Building (in ASM 790 where he “only” had $16,000).

DD5 26-28 has Daredevil going missing for a while overseas; by the time he’s available to appear again Fisk has been elected mayor of NYC.

DD 595 (1-3) has DD returning to the states and it really looks like Fisk’s inauguration party. DD 595 (4-5) has Fisk setting the police against costumed heroes; probably a day or so after pages 1-3. DD 595 (6-20) is “later,” and Murdock has gone over his new orders and says he now has ideas to fight them. Also, Murdock’s been dragging his feet on his orders so it’s been a little while at least. Continues into next issue (which lasts two days) and at the end Fisk asks Murdock to be his deputy mayor. Hammerhead appears.

DD 597 has Murdock on his first day as deputy mayor (I’m not sure how long it takes to hire a new deputy mayor, so… it’s been a little bit since last issue?). Punisher (P 220) and Spider-Man (ASM 794) both cameo.

DD 598 is at least a week after last issue, maybe longer. Black Cat appears, still a crime lord. Hammerhead appears again as well. DD 599-600 is probably a day or so later and Spider-Man appears again (ASM 795-797). Ends on a cliffhanger, of course. About a month after Fisk became mayor, so it’s about a month after DD 595 (1-5).

I haven’t read it yet but I see mention that FCBD2018:ASM takes place before DD 601, which also means before DD 599 (and maybe even before DD 598, maybe). I’ll have to get caught up on ASM before I get any further with DD.

V 155-158 lasts about a week. Eddie gets a new job and fights Kraven. V 155 has a billboard still talking about Parker Industries tanking, but V 157 has Kingpin as mayor of NYC and it’s mentioned to be “no sugar November” (according to a hipster couple. Hipsters like to ironically name things, so this may not actually be November). I guess that billboard was old news…

Normally the NYC mayoral election is in November but the winner isn’t inaugurated until January. I have it in my head that the chaos from SECEMP caused an emergency election earlier in the year, and that’s the election Kingpin won. It’s also possible the city didn’t wait the usual two months to inaugurate him because of the special circumstances.

ASM:VINCA starts at least a week after V 158 but could be longer. ASM:VINCA / ASM 792 / V 159 / ASM 793 / V 160 / ASM:VINCO lasts a few days. Black Cat is still a crime lord but her HQ is smashed up by the end. Venom suggests she get out of the business. As discussed earlier, Black Cat said she was getting out of the business in DEF5 10. BUT…

DEF5 10 (DD appears)
DD5 26-28 (no appearances for DD elsewhere, Fisk become mayor)
V 155-158 (Fisk already mayor)
ASM:VINC (Black Cat still a criminal)

For what it’s worth, ASM:VINCO and DEF5 9 were published the same month. I’m sure DEF5 10 is intended to be her last appearance as a crime lord, but she can’t appear elsewhere between DEF5 9-10 (she’s in the hospital). So, you know, whatever. *shrug*

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I see Nick responded while I was typing. Oh well. It's already typed up so I'll leave it.

[StrayLamb]

I see Nick responded while I was typing. Oh well. It's already typed up so I'll leave it.

Yep, i was butting in, sorry.. oh well, we were on the same track.. also i think it should be "IM 593 (19-22), 594-596, 598-FB (Spider-Miles appears) (Tony gets better, but not publicly)"