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Hopefully that'll be enough time for us to nail down the existing Hyborian chronology!

Speaking of which, does anyone have a list of appearances of the Hyborian Age/Hyborian characters outside of the usual Conan/Hyborian related series? For example, the Marvel Team-Up issue with Red Sonja, and the 5 issue mini series from a decade or so ago.
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wolverine7230 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 am Hopefully that'll be enough time for us to nail down the existing Hyborian chronology!
Given that there's something like 500 issues? Probably not :lol:
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Somebody wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:26 pm
wolverine7230 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 am Hopefully that'll be enough time for us to nail down the existing Hyborian chronology!
Given that there's something like 500 issues? Probably not :lol:
I think you'd be surprised... I've already got a lot of notes on Conan's chronology, and even if I were to only read, analyse and place 5 issues a day, I'd be done with plenty of time to spare! Is definitely something I'm working on when I've got time.

Also looking forward to trying to convince you all why (some of) the Dynamite Red Sonja stuff is canon! That'll be fun...!
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wolverine7230 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 am Speaking of which, does anyone have a list of appearances of the Hyborian Age/Hyborian characters outside of the usual Conan/Hyborian related series? For example, the Marvel Team-Up issue with Red Sonja, and the 5 issue mini series from a decade or so ago.
Here's a start -- These are all appearances of Conan in flashbacks to the Hyborian Age:

M/SAGA 1
P@ 2
DSSS 11

And this is Conan glimpsed as someone is traveling the timestream:

TCORPS 3
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Don't forget to include the original Marvel Conan stories published in foreign countries like France and Turkey.
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vanhornluke wrote: Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:05 pm Don't forget to include the original Marvel Conan stories published in foreign countries like France and Turkey.
I wasn't aware of these, would you care to elaborate?
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So the second issue is out, no qualms there, easily slides into canon after the war with the Picts in Conan's already established chronology. References also a couple of other events in Conan's life that we've seen transpire in Marvel's previous Conan comics as well. I'm pretty optimistic that the creative teams are consciously making sure this fits into the existing canon.

EDIT: I may write in with my thoughts on the series so far, and see if we can get an "official" comment on the matter.
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Also, as I'm working on a solid Conan chronology at the moment, would you guys say its better to get a rough draft done quickly to share, with lots of mistakes and multiple full rereads likely needed, or take it slower and more in-depth, with less mistakes and probably a better result?
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Probably the best two resources for someone wanting to review the Conan chronology would be the Conan Comics Chronology from Conan Saga and Sirmuddy's List.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/7zzauld1b ... y.pdf/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f9a7wqvr1 ... y.txt/file
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wolverine7230 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:52 pm I think you'd be surprised... I've already got a lot of notes on Conan's chronology, and even if I were to only read, analyse and place 5 issues a day, I'd be done with plenty of time to spare! Is definitely something I'm working on when I've got time.

Also looking forward to trying to convince you all why (some of) the Dynamite Red Sonja stuff is canon! That'll be fun...!
Sounds interesting :D
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wolframbane wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:56 am Probably the best two resources for someone wanting to review the Conan chronology would be the Conan Comics Chronology from Conan Saga and Sirmuddy's List.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/7zzauld1b ... y.pdf/file
http://www.mediafire.com/file/f9a7wqvr1 ... y.txt/file
Yeah, these are what I'm using as a baseline. I've just been making a list with minimal notes so far, but think I'm going to go back and flesh it out to ensure I don't make any major mistakes...
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wolverine7230 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:52 pm Also looking forward to trying to convince you all why (some of) the Dynamite Red Sonja stuff is canon! That'll be fun...!
Sounds interesting :D
It really is :P
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Somebody wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:26 pm
wolverine7230 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:43 amHopefully that'll be enough time for us to nail down the existing Hyborian chronology!
Given that there's something like 500 issues? Probably not :lol:
Sounds like a challenge!
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I realize we don't necessarily want to base the MCP chronology on SirMuddy's old lists, but i thought i would put up his Red Sonja list, which i copied from an old site, as i wasn't able to find it on any other sites now. It's the timeline i've been working from myself. Also, as Wolverine has already mentioned, the first 34 issues of Dynamite's Red Sonja (2005) appears to be a continuation of Marvel's character.

RED SONJA CHRONOLOGY

Kull & the Barbarians 3 (origin story); also Savage Sword of Conan 78 (same story, different artist) "The Day of the Sword"
Conan the Barbarian 23 (Red Sonja's first appearance) "The Shadow of the Vulture"
Conan the Barbarian 24 "The Song of Red Sonja"
Marvel Feature 1 "Red Sonja"
Savage Sword of Conan 153 "Phantasm"
Savage Sword of Conan 187 "Red Sonja Quells the Song of the Siren"
Savage Sword of Conan 1 "Curse of the Undead Man"
Conan the Barbarian 43 "Tower of Blood"
Conan the Barbarian 44 "Of Flame and the Fiend"
Red Sonja (series 3) 3 "Seige" (flashback portion only) Conan the Barbarian 48 "Episode"
Kull and the Barbarians 2 "Red Sonja, She Devil with a Sword"
Marvel Feature 1 "The Temple of Abomination"
Savage Sword of Conan 78 "The Day of the Sword"
Marvel Feature 2
Marvel Feature 3
Marvel Feature 4
Marvel Feature 5
Marvel Feature 6 "Beware the Sacred Sons of Set" (c/- Conan 66)
Conan the Barbarian 66 "Daggers and Death Gods"
Conan the Barbarian 67 "Talons of the Man Tiger"
Marvel Feature 7 "The Battle of the Barbarians"
Conan the Barbarian 68 "Of Once and Future Kings"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 1 "The Blood of the Unicorn"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 2 "The Demon of the Maze"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 3 "The Games of Gita"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 4 "The Lake of the Unknown"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 5 "Master of the Bells"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 6 "The Singing Tower"
Savage Sword of Conan "Wizards of the Black Sun"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 7 "Throne of Blood"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 8 "Vengeance of the Golden Circle"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 9 "Chariot of the Fire Stallions"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 10 "Red Lace"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 11 "Sightless in a Strange Land"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 12 "Ashes and Emblems"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 13 "Shall Skranos Fall?"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 14 "An Evening of the Border"
Red Sonja (Series 1) 15 "The Tomb of Three Dead Kings"
Conan the Barbarian 115 "A War of Wizards"
Marvel Super Special 9 " Day of the Red Judgement"
Red Sonja (Series 2) 1 "The Blood that Binds"
Red Sonja (Series 2) 2 "The Sea that Steals"
Savage Sword of Conan 225 "Valeria of the Red Brotherhood"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 2 "Blood Debt"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 3 "Siege"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 4 "Lassusar Must Die"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 8 "The Queen of Ice and Blood"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 9 "The Queen of Hearts"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 10 "Strangers"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 11 "Buried Alive"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 12 "Descent"
Red Sonja (Series 3) 13 "The Demon's Tooth"
Conan the Barbarian 195 "Blood of Ages"
Conan the Barbarian 196 "The Beast"
Conan the Barbarian 197 "Stand"
Conan the Barbarian 198 "The River"
Conan the Barbarian 199 "Revelation in the Mists"
Conan Annual 12 "Legion of the Dead"
Conan the Barbarian 200 "The Fall of Acheron"
Conan the Barbarian 240 "Goblin"
Conan the Barbarian 205 "Necropolis"
Conan the Barbarian 241 "All Roads Lead to Zamora"
Conan the Barbarian 242 "They Came to Castle Zukala"
Conan the Barbarian 243 "Dawn and Death Gods"
Conan the Barbarian 244 "Fiends of the Flaming Mountains"
Conan the Barbarian 245 "Empire of the Undead"
Conan the Barbarian 246 "Chaos in Khoraja" (Note: This takes place around the time of "Black Colossus")
Conan the Barbarian 247 "The Sword that Conquers All" (Note: This takes place around the time of "Black Colossus")
Conan the Barbarian 248 "The Peril and the Prophecy" (Note: This takes place around the time of "Black Colossus")
Conan the Barbarian 249 "Red Wind" (Note: This takes place around the time of "Black Colossus")
Conan the Barbarian 250 "Chaos Beneath Kuthchemes" (Note: This takes place around the time of "Black Colossus")
Savage Sword of Conan 207 "Diverging Paths"
Savage Sword of Conan 208 "All in the Game"
Savage Sword of Conan 209 "Battles Lost and Won"
Savage Sword of Conan 210 "End of the Road"
Savage Sword of Conan 229 "A Bride for Varitra"
Savage Sword of Conan 192 "Red Sonja on the Road of Kings"
Savage Sword of Conan 230-233 "The Ring of Ikribu"
Conan: The Ravagers Out of Time (Graphic Novel)
Savage Sword of Conan 223 "The Many Mirrors of Tuzan Thune"
Savage Sword of Conan 224 "Dragons of the World's Dawn"
Savage Sword of Conan 226 "Of Kings and Cataclysms"
Savage Sword of Conan 227 "Days of the World's Ending"
Savage Sword of Conan 228 "Back From Time's Abyss"
Savage Sword of Conan 229 "Assault on Acheron"
Savage Sword of Conan 230 "The Fall of Python"
Savage Sword of Conan 144 "The Waiting Doom"
Savage Sword of Conan 145 "Feast of the Stag"
Savage Sword of Conan 179 "Fury of the Iron Damsels"
Conan the King 28 "Call of the Wild"
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That's pretty darn close to Roy's list, with a few added stories that I most likely missed when going through the CONAN SAGA articles. The overall order is the same.

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