EMPYRE

[Clive_Reston]

2020 iWolverine take place during the Iron Man 2020 event, that is after Incoming, and refers to events in Madripoor that happens in Marauders during the time that Kate is dead. But I will wait for all the mutant titles to be aligned for X of Swords before I analyze them all in depth together.

Gotcha! On closer examination:

Ben Grimm isn't wearing his cast in X/FF2--although the art is VERY cagey about showing us his right arm until the fourth issue. He loses the cast in Empyre: Fantastic Four #0. So X/FF2 is after Empyre--it doesn't happen before Kate dies but after she comes back.

The events in Madripoor referred to in 2020 iWolverine (Pierce and Verendi taking over) happen during Marauders while Kate is dead, but all of pre-X of Swords Marauders seems to be substantially before Empyre. (Empyre appears to lead directly into X of Swords.)

[Midnighter]

A small side note: in EMPYRE: FF 0 Cap'n Barnooka says he saw the Thing fight against Torgo. Does this qualify him to be listed on BTS in FF 93?

[Clive_Reston]

Comparatively straightforward update this week--the one consequential/ambiguous thing is when exactly EMPYRE 4 (20) -FB takes place!

LORDS OF EMPYRE: EMPEROR HULKLING (1-3) is "years ago," ca. FF 257

FF6 21 1-5 is a set of long-ago FBs

X5 8 (5) -FB ~ X5 10 (1) -FB ~ (possibly) F.F. 6 (19) -FB
X5 10 (2-4) -FB
X5 10 (15) -FB

EMPYRE: X-MEN 1 (1 - 2:1) is "one year ago," and involves Dr. Strange

E:X (2:2 - 5) are flashbacks to 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and 1 month(s) ago

LoE:EH (5-11:2) is an indefinite amount of time before INCOMING!

X5 10 (5-14 and 16-22) is all -FB to between X5 7 (in which the Summers group is planning their trip to Chandilore) and X5 8 (in which they're back and Gabriel joins them after the Acanti appears)

X5 8-9 [placement uncertain]

EMPYRE 4 (20) -FB --placement is uncertain but maybe somewhere around here?

INCOMING! (1-52)
LoE:EH (11:3 - 12)
INCOMING! (53-55) ~ LoE: EH (13) - dialogue is not identical but it's the same scene, and I suppose they could be interleaved
LoE: EH (14)
INCOMING! (56)
LoE: EH (15-17)
INCOMING! (57-80)
LoE: EH (18-29)
[there will have to be a substantial break here]

INCOMING! (81-84)
ROAD TO EMPYRE: THE KREE/SKRULL WAR
LoE: EH (30)

LORDS OF EMPYRE: CELESTIAL MESSIAH

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 0 and EMPYRE: FANTASTIC FOUR 0 are effectively simultaneous (their final pages are in fact simultaneous)

EMPYRE 1 (1 - 2:2)
FF6 21 (6/7:1-3)
EMPYRE 1 (2:3-6) ~ FF6 21 (6/7:4 - 8:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:1-3)
FF6 21 (8:2 - 9:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:4 - 30)
EMPYRE 2 (there's a break between pages 17 and 18 that could last at least a few hours if needed)

FF6 21 (9:2 - 20)
FF6 22

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 1 is about "7 hours" after Empyre 2
E:X 1 (6-30) seems to be around the same time (Genosha is a "staging area" for an invasion of Wakanda... but since the invasion of Wakanda isn't being published, and the Agents of Wakanda are active in E:A 1, who knows)
E:X 2

EMPYRE 3 is after FF6 22, per pg. 2, & refers to EMPYRE: THOR, which is now not being published

CM9 18
EMPYRE: SAVAGE AVENGERS 1 is the invasion of Mexico City, which is before E:CA
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 1 appears to be after E:A 1--Cap is the only overlapping character

EMPYRE 4 is after (at least some of) E:CA 1; a bit of time has passed since #3

[Midnighter]

Just to be sure, the events of Quoi's childhood spent on Earth had never been shown before, right?

I remember a panel in an early issue of Silver Surfer showing Mantis in an Earth apartment, but not Quoi.

[michel]

The silhouette of Mantis holding a baby is seen in SS3 4 (10:3)-FB and A:CQ 2 (11:3)-FB
Then we clearly see Mantis holding baby-Quoi as they "took possession of a suburban house" in WCA2 39 (21:2)-FB
Then, in the panel that you remember in SS3 4 (10:5)-FB, we actually see Quoi's arms as he's playing ball in a pool in the garden
In A:CQ 2 (11:4)-FB, Quoi has grown up a bit as Mantis pours him a cup of tea. Mantis says that "for one year, she raised Quoi in the village of Willimantic, Connecticut."
And in A:CQ 2 (11:5)-FB, Mantis waves him goodbye as his father takes him to live on the cotati world

[Clive_Reston]

This week's update! And now we know exactly what half-hour that -FB at the end of #4 takes place during... plus, I believe, the first 616 appearances of Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung (on pg. 2 of EMPYRE 5)!

LORDS OF EMPYRE: EMPEROR HULKLING (1-3) is "years ago," ca. FF 257

FF6 21 1-5 is a set of long-ago FBs

X5 8 (5) -FB ~ X5 10 (1) -FB ~ (possibly) F.F. 6 (19) -FB
X5 10 (2-4) -FB
X5 10 (15) -FB

EMPYRE: X-MEN 1 (1 - 2:1) is "one year ago," and involves Dr. Strange

E:X (2:2 - 5) are flashbacks to 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and 1 month(s) ago

LoE:EH (5-11:2) is an indefinite amount of time before INCOMING!

X5 10 (5-14 and 16-22) is all -FB to between X5 7 (in which the Summers group is planning their trip to Chandilore) and X5 8 (in which they're back and Gabriel joins them after the Acanti appears)

X5 8-9 [placement uncertain]

INCOMING! (1-52)
LoE:EH (11:3 - 12)
INCOMING! (53-55) ~ LoE: EH (13) - dialogue is not identical but it's the same scene, and I suppose they could be interleaved

EMPYRE 5 (1:2 - 1:3) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (2) -FB
EMPYRE 4 (20) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (3) -FB

LoE: EH (14)
INCOMING! (56)
LoE: EH (15-17)
INCOMING! (57-80)
LoE: EH (18-29)
[there's a longish break here]

INCOMING! (81-84)
ROAD TO EMPYRE: THE KREE/SKRULL WAR
LoE: EH (30)

LORDS OF EMPYRE: CELESTIAL MESSIAH

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 0 and EMPYRE: FANTASTIC FOUR 0 are effectively simultaneous (their final pages are in fact simultaneous)

EMPYRE 1 (1 - 2:2)
FF6 21 (6/7:1-3)
EMPYRE 1 (2:3-6) ~ FF6 21 (6/7:4 - 8:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:1-3)
FF6 21 (8:2 - 9:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:4 - 30)
EMPYRE 2 (there's a break between pages 17 and 18 that could last at least a few hours if needed)

FF6 21 (9:2 - 20)
FF6 22

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 1 is about "7 hours" after Empyre 2
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (1-8): Wakanda still hasn't been attacked directly

E:X 1 (6-30) seems to be around the same time (Genosha is a "staging area" for an invasion of Wakanda... but since the invasion of Wakanda isn't being published, and the Agents of Wakanda are active in E:A 1, who knows)
E:X 2
E:X 3 (there could be breaks before and after pg. 10, if necessary)

EMPYRE 3 is after FF6 22, per pg. 2, & refers to EMPYRE: THOR, which is now not being published
CM9 18
CM9 19
EMPYRE: SAVAGE AVENGERS 1 is the invasion of Mexico City, which is before E:CA
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 1-2 appears to be after E:A 1--Cap is the only overlapping character

EMPYRE 4
EMPYRE 5

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (9-20) looks like it's going to have to be after EMPYRE 5 (19), though that could still change

[Midnighter]

I would say that CM9 19 takes place before E: A 1, as in the story of Captain Marvel the Cotati invasion is in its very early stages (life in New York is normal and there is only one little girl attacked by plants in the park) while in E: A 1 Central Park is already covered with plants controlled by the Cotati.
Also at the beginning of E: A 2 it says that Captain America is in Washington, so it should take place during E: CA 1, before Cap and the military go south to the border with Mexico.

Also, during CM9 18 Invisible Woman and the Thing are in the Alliance's spaceship, while at the begininning of E:A 2 Black Panther calls for every Avenger and Agent Of Wakanda available to come back to Wakanda to defends against the Cotati Invasion, and the in Empyre 3 we see Invisibile Woman and Thing in Wakanda.

[Clive_Reston]

Excellent points, Midnighter--thank you! They're incorporated into this week's update, which is otherwise pretty straightforward, adding CM9 20 (which continues that rather-long-for-its-allotted-time-frame sequence), E:X 4 (which, like the other three, seems to happen very quickly indeed), and Lords of Empyre: Swordsman.

LORDS OF EMPYRE: EMPEROR HULKLING (1-3) is "years ago," ca. FF 257

FF6 21 1-5 is a set of long-ago FBs

X5 8 (5) -FB ~ X5 10 (1) -FB ~ (possibly) F.F. 6 (19) -FB
X5 10 (2-4) -FB
X5 10 (15) -FB

LORDS OF EMPYRE: SWORDSMAN all takes place during the period when Iron Man had his black armor

EMPYRE: X-MEN 1 (1 - 2:1) -FB is "one year ago," and involves Dr. Strange

E:X 1 (2:2 - 5) -FB are flashbacks to 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and 1 month(s) ago
E:X 4 (1-10) -FB is "29 days ago" (i.e. before E:X 1-4)

LoE:EH (5-11:2) is an indefinite amount of time before INCOMING!

X5 10 (5-14 and 16-22) is all -FB to between X5 7 (in which the Summers group is planning their trip to Chandilore) and X5 8 (in which they're back and Gabriel joins them after the Acanti appears)

X5 8-9 [placement uncertain]

INCOMING! (1-52)
LoE:EH (11:3 - 12)
INCOMING! (53-55) ~ LoE: EH (13) - dialogue is not identical but it's the same scene, and I suppose they could be interleaved

EMPYRE 5 (1:2 - 1:3) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (2) -FB
EMPYRE 4 (20) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (3) -FB

LoE: EH (14)
INCOMING! (56)
LoE: EH (15-17)
INCOMING! (57-80)
LoE: EH (18-29)
[there's a longish break here]

INCOMING! (81-84)
ROAD TO EMPYRE: THE KREE/SKRULL WAR
LoE: EH (30)

LORDS OF EMPYRE: CELESTIAL MESSIAH

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 0 and EMPYRE: FANTASTIC FOUR 0 are effectively simultaneous (their final pages are in fact simultaneous)

EMPYRE 1 (1 - 2:2)
FF6 21 (6/7:1-3)
EMPYRE 1 (2:3-6) ~ FF6 21 (6/7:4 - 8:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:1-3)
FF6 21 (8:2 - 9:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:4 - 30)
EMPYRE 2 (there's a break between pages 17 and 18 that could last at least a few hours if needed)

FF6 21 (9:2 - 20)
FF6 22

CM9 18
CM9 19
CM9 20

EMPYRE 3 is after FF6 22, per pg. 2, & refers to EMPYRE: THOR, which is now not being published

EMPYRE: SAVAGE AVENGERS 1 is the invasion of Mexico City, which is before E:CA
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 1 is about "7 hours" after Empyre 2
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 1: Cap in Washington, DC
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (1-8): Cap in Washington, Wakanda still hasn't been attacked directly

E:X 1 (6-30) seems to be around the same time (Genosha is a "staging area" for an invasion of Wakanda... but since the invasion of Wakanda isn't being published, and the Agents of Wakanda are active in E:A 1, who knows)
E:X 2
E:X 3 (there could be breaks before and after pg. 10, if necessary)
E:X 4

EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 2

EMPYRE 4
EMPYRE 5

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (9-20) looks like it's going to have to be after EMPYRE 5 (19), though that could still change

[Midnighter]

Empyre: Avengers 3 and Empyre: Captain America 3 follows the precedent issues, and both ends with the news of the attack on Wakanda and the fall of Black Panther, seen in Empyre 5 and that will continue in Empyre 6.

X-Men 11 is tricky: Krakoa is under attack by Cotati's forces, but Illyana and Wolverine are on the Island. So it have to take place after Empyre: X-Men 1-4 for Illyana and I think also after Fantastic Four 24 (we'll see). Also they are speaking about battle between X-Men, lead by Cyclops and Cotati on the Moon, but it can't be a reference to X-Men 10 (that takes place some times before, while Cyclops and his family are on vacation in Shi'Ar spaces). We see also Cyclops on Krakoa, but given the krakoan portals it's easy for him to come and go to the moon.

[Clive_Reston]

OK! So EMPYRE proper ends this week (though we still have Captain Marvel #21 and the She-Hulk, Avengers and Fantastic Four wrap-up issues to go). There's a very tight time frame between the final scenes of #5 and the middle of #6--like, ten minutes or so; a lot of FF6 23 is intercut with its events, and logistically a lot of EMPYRE: AVENGERS #2-3 has to happen during that moment too. Which it can, fortunately!

I suspect one problem with getting the X-Men's involvement straight is that several recap pages are a little misleading. The X-Men, as such, don't start the counterattack against the Cotati--Vulcan fights a bunch of them before Empyre begins, and the one Cotati he leaves alive tips off the others to the existence of Krakoa. I think all we actually see of the X-Men fighting Cotati on the moon during Empyre is the final panel of X5 11.

LORDS OF EMPYRE: EMPEROR HULKLING (1-3) is "years ago," ca. FF 257

FF6 21 1-5 is a set of long-ago FBs

X5 8 (5) -FB ~ X5 10 (1) -FB ~ (possibly) F.F. 6 (19) -FB
X5 10 (2-4) -FB
X5 10 (15) -FB

LORDS OF EMPYRE: SWORDSMAN all takes place during the period when Iron Man had his black armor

EMPYRE: X-MEN 1 (1 - 2:1) -FB is "one year ago," and involves Dr. Strange
E:X 1 (2:2 - 5) -FB are flashbacks to 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and 1 month(s) ago
E:X 4 (1-10) -FB is "29 days ago" (i.e. before E:X 1-4)

LoE:EH (5-11:2) is an indefinite amount of time before INCOMING!

X5 10 (5-14 and 16-22) is all -FB to between X5 7 (in which the Summers group is planning their trip to Chandilore) and X5 8 (in which they're back from Chandilore and Gabriel joins them once the Acanti appears); the Cotati are already setting up on the Moon

X5 8-9: placement uncertain, we'll see if the Brood/Acanti plot gets picked up again any time soon!

INCOMING! (1-52)
LoE:EH (11:3 - 12)
INCOMING! (53-55) ~ LoE: EH (13) - dialogue is not identical but it's the same scene, and I suppose they could be interleaved

EMPYRE 5 (1:2 - 1:3) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (2) -FB
EMPYRE 4 (20) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (3) -FB

LoE: EH (14)
INCOMING! (56)
LoE: EH (15-17)
INCOMING! (57-80)
LoE: EH (18-29)
[there's a longish break here]

INCOMING! (81-84)
ROAD TO EMPYRE: THE KREE/SKRULL WAR
LoE: EH (30)

LORDS OF EMPYRE: CELESTIAL MESSIAH

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 0 and EMPYRE: FANTASTIC FOUR 0 are effectively simultaneous (their final pages are in fact simultaneous)

EMPYRE 1 (1 - 2:2)
FF6 21 (6/7:1-3)
EMPYRE 1 (2:3-6) ~ FF6 21 (6/7:4 - 8:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:1-3)
FF6 21 (8:2 - 9:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:4 - 30)
EMPYRE 2 (there's a break between pages 17 and 18 that could last at least a few hours if needed)

FF6 21 (9:2 - 20)
FF6 22

CM9 18
CM9 19
CM9 20

EMPYRE 3 is after FF6 22, per pg. 2, & refers to EMPYRE: THOR, which is now not being published

EMPYRE: SAVAGE AVENGERS 1 is the invasion of Mexico City, which is before E:CA
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 1 is about "7 hours" after Empyre 2
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 1: Cap in Washington, DC
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (1-8): Cap in Washington, Wakanda still hasn't been attacked directly

E:X 1 (6-30) seems to be around the same time (Genosha is a "staging area" for an invasion of Wakanda... but since the invasion of Wakanda isn't being published, and the Agents of Wakanda are active in E:A 1, who knows)
E:X 2
E:X 3 (there could be breaks before and after pg. 10, if necessary)
E:X 4 (11-27)

EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 2
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 3 (1-18)

EMPYRE 4
EMPYRE 5
EMPYRE 6 (1-4)
FF6 23 (1 - 12/13:2)
EMPYRE 6 (5) ~ FF6 23 (12/13:3 - 14)
EMPYRE 6 (6-10)

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (9-20) and 3 happen very quickly around this time--Ka-Zar is still up and fighting as of EMPYRE 5 (19), communications with Wakanda are still down (and T'Challa is presumed dead) as of the end of E:A 3, and E:A 3 (9-10), in particular, seem to be during the early moments of the Omni-Wave Projection.

Similarly, EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 3 (19-20) is "one day" after the rest of the issue, and big stuff is happening in Wakanda.

X5 11 (1-4) is when Cotati ships attack Krakoa directly; X5 11 -FB (7-19) is shortly after that (and Magik appears to be showing up at some point after E:X)

FF6 23 (15 - 16/17:1)
EMPYRE 6 (11:1-3) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:2 - 16/17:5)
EMPYRE 6 (11:4 - 12:2)
EMPYRE 6 (12:3 - 12:5) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:5 - 16/17:6)
EMPYRE 6 (13:1)
EMPYRE 6 (13:2 - 13:3) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:7 - 16/17:8)
EMPYRE 6 (13:4 - 13:5)
EMPYRE 6 (13:6 - 14/15:1) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:9)
FF6 23 (18-20)
EMPYRE 6 (14/15:2 - 28)
X5 11 -FB (20:2) --the X-Men dispatch the remaining Cotati forces on the moon, Wolverine is with them at some point after FF6 23, and Cyclops and Marvel Girl are with them at some point after X5 9
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 6 is no more than a few hours after the bulk of EMPYRE 6

(a break here of a few hours, maybe a day)

EMPYRE 6 (29-32)
X5 11 (5-20) is "the next day," as Exodus tells the kids the story of Magneto's victory
E:X 4 (28-30) is after it's all over

[Somebody]

Kate Pryde is only off the table in Marauders, I think--and I will bet you a nickel that she'll be back in Marauders 11 or 12, and that Marauders 12 is long enough before INCOMING! that X/FF2 can happen in there too.

Well, she comes back in Marauders #11, but #12 is the big "she's back" reveal to the rest of the cast/her friends/etc.

Of note is that Rachel wears her DoX costume at the funeral, but her new X-Factor suit at the return party. The former is somewhat flexible, in that characters are "allowed" to wear multiple costumes in the DoX era, but the latter is not - she can't wear a costume before it's designed.

[Clive_Reston]

Kate Pryde is only off the table in Marauders, I think--and I will bet you a nickel that she'll be back in Marauders 11 or 12, and that Marauders 12 is long enough before INCOMING! that X/FF2 can happen in there too.

Well, she comes back in Marauders #11, but #12 is the big "she's back" reveal to the rest of the cast/her friends/etc.

Of note is that Rachel wears her DoX costume at the funeral, but her new X-Factor suit at the return party. The former is somewhat flexible, in that characters are "allowed" to wear multiple costumes in the DoX era, but the latter is not - she can't wear a costume before it's designed.

Indeed. And, as I noted above, I'm now pretty convinced that X/FF2 is entirely post-Empyre (and post-the-return-of-Kate).

Here's the "all over but the Immortal She-Hulk special" update for Empyre...

"Years ago," ca. FF 257:

LORDS OF EMPYRE: EMPEROR HULKLING -FB (1-3) ~ EMPYRE: AFTERMATH AVENGERS -FB (1-2)
EMPYRE AFTERMATH: AVENGERS (3 - 5:1)

FF6 21 1-5 is a set of long-ago FBs

X5 8 (5) -FB ~ X5 10 (1) -FB ~ (possibly) F.F. 6 (19) -FB
X5 10 (2-4) -FB
X5 10 (15) -FB

LORDS OF EMPYRE: SWORDSMAN all takes place during the period when Iron Man had his black armor

EMPYRE: X-MEN 1 (1 - 2:1) -FB is "one year ago," and involves Dr. Strange

EMP:X 1 (2:2 - 5) -FB are flashbacks to 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3 and 1 month(s) ago
EMP:X 4 (1-10) -FB is "29 days ago" (i.e. before E:X 1-4)

LoE:EH (5-11:2) is an indefinite amount of time before INCOMING!

X5 10 (5-14 and 16-22) is all -FB to between X5 7 (in which the Summers group is planning their trip to Chandilore) and X5 8 (in which they're back and Gabriel joins them after the Acanti appears); the Cotati are already setting up on the Moon

X5 8-9: placement uncertain but probably right around here: we'll see if the Brood/Acanti plot gets picked up again any time soon!

INCOMING! (1-52)
LoE:EH (11:3 - 12)
INCOMING! (53-55) ~ LoE: EH (13) - dialogue is not identical but it's the same scene, and I suppose they could be interleaved

EMPYRE 5 (1:2 - 1:3) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (2) -FB
EMPYRE 4 (20) -FB
EMPYRE 5 (3) -FB

LoE: EH (14)
INCOMING! (56)
LoE: EH (15-17)
INCOMING! (57-80)
LoE: EH (18-29)
[there's a longish break here]

INCOMING! (81-84)
ROAD TO EMPYRE: THE KREE/SKRULL WAR
LoE: EH (30)

LORDS OF EMPYRE: CELESTIAL MESSIAH

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 0 and EMPYRE: FANTASTIC FOUR 0 are effectively simultaneous (their final pages are in fact simultaneous)

EMPYRE 1 (1 - 2:2)
FF6 21 (6/7:1-3)
EMPYRE 1 (2:3-6) ~ FF6 21 (6/7:4 - 8:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:1-3)
FF6 21 (8:2 - 9:1)
EMPYRE 1 (3:4 - 30)
EMPYRE 2

FF6 21 (9:2 - 20)
FF6 22

CM9 18
CM9 19
CM9 20
CM9 21 (1-18) (the issue "opens with events preceding EMPYRE #4," per editorial note)

EMPYRE 3 is after FF6 22, per pg. 2, & is the first of rather a lot of references to EMPYRE: THOR, which is now not being published

EMPYRE: SAVAGE AVENGERS 1 is the invasion of Mexico City, which is before EMP:CA
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 1 is about "7 hours" after Empyre 2
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 1: Cap in Washington, DC
EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (1-8): Cap in Washington, Wakanda still hasn't been attacked directly

EMP:X 1 (6-30) seems to be around the same time (Genosha is a "staging area" for an invasion of Wakanda)
EMP:X 2
EMP:X 3
EMP:X 4 (11-27)

EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 2
EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 3 (1-18)

EMPYRE 4
EMPYRE 5
EMPYRE 6 (1-4)
FF6 23 (1 - 12/13:2)
EMPYRE 6 (5) ~ FF6 23 (12/13:3 - 14)
EMPYRE 6 (6-10)

EMPYRE: AVENGERS 2 (9-20) and 3 happen very quickly around this time--Ka-Zar is still up and fighting as of EMPYRE 5 (19), communications with Wakanda are still down (and T'Challa is presumed dead) as of the end of EMP:A 3, and EMP:A 3 (9-10), in particular, seem to be during the early moments of the Omni-Wave Projection.

Similarly, EMPYRE: CAPTAIN AMERICA 3 (19-20) is "one day" after the rest of the issue, and big stuff is happening in Wakanda.

X5 11 (1-4) is when Cotati ships attack Krakoa directly; X5 11 -FB (7-19) is shortly after that (and Magik appears to be showing up at some point after EMP:X)

FF6 23 (15 - 16/17:1)
EMPYRE 6 (11:1-3) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:2 - 16/17:5)
EMPYRE 6 (11:4 - 12:2)
EMPYRE 6 (12:3 - 12:5) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:5 - 16/17:6)
EMPYRE 6 (13:1)
EMPYRE 6 (13:2 - 13:3) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:7 - 16/17:8)
EMPYRE 6 (13:4 - 13:5)
EMPYRE 6 (13:6 - 14/15:1) ~ FF6 23 (16/17:9)
FF6 23 (18-20)
EMPYRE 6 (14/15:2 - 28)
X5 11 -FB (20:2) --the X-Men dispatch the remaining Cotati forces on the moon, Wolverine is with them after FF6 23

(a break here of maybe a day)

EMPYRE 6 (29-32)
GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY 6 is probably right about here
X5 11 (5-20)--the sequence wrapped around the -FB--is "the next day" (after the -FB), as Exodus tells the kids the story of Magneto's victory

EMPYRE FALLOUT: FANTASTIC FOUR (1-9) is long enough after X5 11 -FB (20:2) for Wolverine to have gone back to earth, gone to Disneyland with the kids, and changed back into his FF costume to be one of the last guests arriving, and is promptly followed by...
EMPYRE AFTERMATH: AVENGERS -FB (10-24) --and then, after the festivities, we get...
EMPYRE FALLOUT: FANTASTIC FOUR (10-20)
Then the "present-day" portion of EMPYRE AFTERMATH: AVENGERS (i.e. 5:2 - 9, aside from the embedded flashbacks, and 25-28) is the day after the -FB

EMP:X 4 (28-30) is after it's all over
CM9 21 (19-20) is "several weeks" after the rest of the issue

The last two pages of EMPYRE AFTERMATH: AVENGERS are a FF to some point in the future!

[Somebody]

Indeed. And, as I noted above, I'm now pretty convinced that X/FF2 is entirely post-Empyre (and post-the-return-of-Kate).

The F4 are getting new classic-style costumes (also new status quo, new this, new that, new unlimited rice pudding...) post-Empyre though.

[Clive_Reston]

Guardians of the Galaxy 6 is definitely in the gap between the end of Empyre proper and EMPYRE AFTERMATH: AVENGERS -FB (10-24), since Nova and Rocket are at the reception in the latter! (So are Skrull Al Ewing and Kree Dan Slott, as well as Allan Heinberg, Jim Cheung, and probably some other real-world people I don't recognize.)

The Immortal She-Hulk one-shot is an unspecified amount of time after it's all over (and has a flashback to Jen's transformation during Empyre); it definitely takes place after T6 6.

Is it time to start an EMPYRE to KING IN BLACK topic? (I'd say "...to X OF SWORDS," but it looks like XOS may be pretty straightforwardly "these 22 issues in this order"; also, Empyre to X of Swords doesn't look like a long time at all. Though XoS: Creation suggests that there are going to have to be at least three weeks between the two events...)

[Clive_Reston]

FF6 24 strongly suggests that X/FF2 takes place between Empyre and that issue; Franklin is now spending a bunch of time hanging out on Krakoa! (And the FF don't appear to have changed their costumes yet.)

Fun fact: besides Ben's right arm (and thus his cast, if he were wearing it) not appearing in the first three issues of X/FF2 at all, nowhere in the miniseries do we see Kate Pryde's knuckles...