Thor in A5 25-28

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Thor in A5 25-28

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Thor is still handling his own hammer in A5 25-27 and cannot yet use Thorr's "unworthy" hammer because that is the story where Thorr comes to our Earth and they fight, each using his own hammer.

Chronology:
A 25-27 Thorr from evil Avengers comes with a hammer that can be used by whoever is unworthy and fights Thor who still handles his own hammer > OSIN 7-8 Thor loses ability to handle Mjolnir > various issues where Thor handles a hammer including A 29-34

By doing this:
You place A5 25-28 before Original Sin (as expected from the Original Sin banner on A5 29)
You solve the problem that Thor handles his own hammer during A5 25-27.
You make it possible for Thor to handle a hammer post-OSIN (Thorr's hammer).
You remove a storyline between Cap learning of his mindwipe in OSIN and confronting Tony in A5 29.

The epilogs in A5 28 can stay where they are.

Note: When the evil Avengers leave our Earth, Thorr is seen with a hammer and so one could claim he did not leave his hammer on our Earth. But in NA3 27, 616 Thor does have that hammer so we must revise A 28 (told through narration anyway). Earlier in A 26 we see one of the Adaptoids with a hammer so they can duplicate it. The solution is that AIM gave an Adaptoid hammer to Thorr when they revived him and his Mjolnir stayed on our Earth where Thor found it.

This solves all problems and you do not have to imagine that Thor gradually lost the use of his hammer and/or made return trips to the moon.

CAPTAIN MARVEL VII/CAROL SUSAN JANE DANVERS
ULTF.F. 6-FB
*A5 25 move here
*A5 26 move here
*A5 27 move here
OSIN 2-BTS
OSIN 6
OSIN 7
*A5 25 move from here
*A5 26 move from here
*A5 27 move from here

CAPTAIN AMERICA/STEVE ROGERS
AX2 11
*A5 25 move here
*A5 26 move here
*A5 27 move here
*A5 28-FB move here
*A5 28 move here
OSIN 0
FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
OSIN 1
...
OSIN 8
*A5 25 move from here
*A5 26 move from here
*A5 27 move from here
*A5 28-FB move from here
*A5 28 move from here
ANINV 9

HILL, MARIA
SECA3 4
*A5 25 move here
*A5 26 move here
*A5 28 move here
OSIN:HVSIM 1-FB
FF5 8-FB
...
DD4 7
*A5 25 move from here
*A5 26 move from here
*A5 28 move from here
UX3 19

HULK
H3 4
*A5 26 move here
*A5 27 move here
*A5 28-FB-FB move here
*A5 28 (3 - 18)-FB move here
*A5 28 (2:1 - 2:2)-FB move here
*A5 28 (1 - 20) move here
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:1 - 8:2)-FB
FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:3 - 8:4)-FB
DP5 29-VO
OSIN 2 (1 - 15)
NO5 18
OSIN 2 (17 - 19:3)
ASM3 4 (3:2 - 3:3:4)
OSIN 2 (19:4 - 20&21:1)
ASM3 4 (3:3:5 - 4:2:1)
OSIN 3 (4&1:1 - 4&5:2) ~ ASM3 4 (4:2:2 - 4:2:3)
ASM3 4 (4:3 - 5)
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (10)-FB
OSIN 3 (4&5:3) ~ ASM3 4 (6:1) ~ OSIN:T&L 1 (2:2 - 2:3)
OSIN 3 (4&5:4 - 6)
OSIN:T&L 1 (4)
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (17 - 20)-FB
*OSIN 3 (7 - 22) move from here
OSIN:HVSIM 2 (1 - 17)
OSIN:HVSIM 3-FB
OSIN:HVSIM 2 (18 - 20)
OSIN:HVSIM 3 (1 - 17)
OSIN:HVSIM 1
OSIN:HVSIM 3 (18 - 20)
OSIN:HVSIM 4
*OSIN 3 (7 - 22) move here
OSIN 4
OSIN 6
OSIN 7
OSIN 8
*A5 26 move from here
*A5 27 move from here
*A5 28-FB-FB move from here
*A5 28 (3 - 18)-FB move from here
*A5 28 (2:1 - 2:2)-FB move from here
*A5 28 (21 - 22) add range
ANINV 8

IRON MAN/ANTHONY EDWARD "TONY" STARK/"RICHARD FRANCO"
TB2 32
*A5 25 move here
*A5 26 move here
*A5 27 move here
*A5 28 (3 - 18)-FB move here
*A5 28 (2:1 - 2:2)-FB move here
*A5 28 (1 - 20) move here
OSIN 0
FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
OSIN 1
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:3 - 8:4)-FB
OSIN 2 (1 - 15)
NO5 18 (7:2 - 16:5)
DP5 29
OSIN 2 (20&21:1)
FF5 6-FB
OSIN 3 (4&5:1 - 4&5:2)
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (10)-FB
NO5 18 (20)
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (17 - 20)-FB
**OSIN 3 (7 - 22) DELETE (I didn't find him)
**OSINS 1/3 MOVE FROM HERE
OSIN:HVSIM 2
OSIN:HVSIM 3 (1 - 17)
OSIN:HVSIM 1
OSIN:HVSIM 3 (18 - 20)
OSIN:HVSIM 4
**OSINS 1/3 MOVE HERE
OSIN 6
OSIN 7
OSIN 8
*A5 25 move from here
*A5 26 move from here
*A5 27 move from here
*A5 28 (3 - 18)-FB move from here
*A5 28 (2:1 - 2:2)-FB move from here
*A5 28 (21 -22) ADD RANGE
AINV 8

THOR ODINSON
TB2 32
*A5 25 move here
*A5 26 move here
*A5 27 move here
OSIN 0
FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
NO5 18 (1 - 7:1)-BTS
OSIN 1
...
OSIN 8
*A5 25 move from here
*A5 26 move from here
*A5 27 move from here
A5 29
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Re: Thor in A5 25-28

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BLACK WIDOW III/NATALIA ALIANOVNA ROMANOVA/"NATASHA ROMANOFF"
...
SECA3 3
A5 25 <-- MOVE TO HERE
A5 26 <-- MOVE TO HERE
A5 27 <-- MOVE TO HERE
A5 28-FB <-- MOVE TO HERE

FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
OSIN 1
OSIN 2 (1 - 18:4)
ASM3 4 (3:2 - 3:3:4)
OSIN 2 (19:4 - 20&21:1)
ASM3 4 (3:3:5 - 4:2:1) FF5 6-FB
ASM3 4 (4:2:2 - 4:2:3)
OSIN 6
OSIN 7
OSIN 8
A5 25 <-- MOVE FROM HERE
A5 26 <-- MOVE FROM HERE
A5 27 <-- MOVE FROM HERE
A5 28-FB <-- MOVE FROM HERE

A5 29
...

HILL, MARIA
...
A5 26
A5 28-FB <-- ADD [A5 28 (2:3 - 2:5)-FB]
A5 28
OSIN:HVSIM 1-FB
...

IRON MAN/ANTHONY EDWARD "TONY" STARK/"RICHARD FRANCO"
...
TB2 30
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:1 - 8:2)-FB
UX SPEC
IM SPEC
NO SPEC
AX2 10-FB
AX2 11
FCBD14:GOTG
TB2 32
A5 25
A5 26
A5 27
A5 28 (3 - 18)-FB
A5 28 (2:1 - 2:2)-FB
A5 28 (1 - 20)

OSIN 0
FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
OSIN 1
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:3 - 8:4)-FB
OSIN 2 (1 - 15)
...

HULK/DR. ROBERT BRUCE BANNER
...
H3 4
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:1 - 8:2)-FB <-- MOVE TO HERE
A5 26
A5 27
A5 28-FB-FB
A5 28 (3 - 18)-FB
A5 28 (2:1 - 2:2)-FB
A5 28 (1 - 20)
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:1 - 8:2)-FB <-- MOVE FROM HERE

FF5 6
FF5 8-FB
OSIN:HVSIM 1 (8:3 - 8:4)-FB
DP5 29-VO
...
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Thor & Adaptoid in A5 25-28 and Spider-Boy 3

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I don't know if Dan Slott follows us (he probably does) but in Spider-Boy 3 he features an Adaptoid who duplicates Thor, including Mjolnir and its abilities. This reminded me of this post where I argued that the evil Thorr must have received an Adaptoid duplicate hammer when he left our Earth so that his Mjolnir could stay for 616's Thor to pick up.
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