Black Widow in DD 159

[michel]

Black Widow is BTS in DD 159 after M/TU 82-85.
But Daredevil has DD 159 before CA 250, and Spider-Man has CA 250 before M/TU 82-85.

DAREDEVIL/MATTHEW MICHAEL MURDOCK/"JACK BATLIN"
...
A 191
DD 159
CA 250
M/TIO 69
...

SPIDER-MAN/PETER BENJAMIN PARKER
...
M/TU 95
CA 250
ASM@ 13
PPSSM@ 1
M/TIO 69
PPSSM 38
PPSSM 39
PPSSM 40
ASM 201
ASM 202
PPSSM 41
ASM 203
DAZZ 1
DAZZ 2
PPSSM 42
FF 218
ASM 204
ASM 205
PPSSM 43
ASM 206
M/TU 79
M/TU 82
M/TU 83
M/TU 84
M/TU 85
SW 26
...

BLACK WIDOW III/NATALIA ALIANOVNA ROMANOVA/"NATASHA ROMANOFF"
...
A 181
DD 159-BTS <-- MOVE TO HERE
M/TU 85 (10:4)-FB
M/TU 83-FB
M/TU 85 (10:5)-FB
M/TU 82
M/TU 83
M/TU 84
M/TU 85
DD 159-BTS <-- MOVE FROM HERE
DD 160
...

[Leoparis]

Black Widow's behind the scenes is a newspaper title "Widow Returns. Natasha in Big Apple" on the last page. That last page is just Bullseye reviewing footage of Daredevil fighting assassins in order to prepare an attack. There is no indication of how long it is after the time the footage was taken.

So first remark, moving the issue based solely on Daredevil's position was not pertinent reasoning.
A better reasoning would have been that the early pages of DD 159 are the day after DD 158.

The other thing is that Bullseye's newspaper could be an old one (meaning Black Widow would not be behind the scenes). In DD 155 the return of the Widow is big news hailed at newstands and the newspaper could be from around DD 155. (It's doubtful her return to NYC would be front page news twice in a short period.)

In that same DD 155 Cap & Beast learn the Champions disbanded and welcome Natasha and Hercules to stay. So DD 155 must be very soon after A 173 when Natasha and Hercules arrive at the airport. They have a spat at the airport.

In DD 156 Matt slips in a coma for some indeterminate time.

In DD 157 Hercules regrets the words spoken in A 173. The two events should not be too far from each other. In particular, one would expect Hercules applying for Defenders 62-64 to take place after his breakup with Natasha in DD 157.

Beast gets involved with the X-Men after A 172 (from M/TU 69 to X 114). Currently DD 155 is after T 271, CA 224-FB, CA 224, A@ 8, A:ROU-FB, A 201/2, A 178.

That conversation with Cap, Natasha and Hercules (Champions disbanding and welcome to stay at the mansion) should be as soon as possible after X 114.
If for some reason (I don't see any) DD 155-159 cannot be moved, a long break can be made in DD 156 while DD is in a coma. (DD 155-156 ASAP after A 177, and 157-159 later)

M/FAN 10 has a BW career recap that ends with breaking up with Hercules. I don't think this should be after DD 165 and M/TE 25. By DD 164 BW is obviously very close to DD but there's no mention of it in M/FAN 10, which only mentions returning to SHIELD. BW is tested for fitness as an agentin M/FAN 10, which points to it taking place before BIZADV 25.

The newspaper in DD 159 could refer to a different return to NYC of BW (after M/FAN 10-13 & BIZADV 25 for example)

I see Widow's chrono like this: PPSSM 18-FB, A 173-177, A:KS, DD 155-158, [DD 159 not in chrono as newspaper refers to DD 155], BW 1-FB, A 181?, M/FAN 10-13 (notes breakup with Hercules, goes abroad), BIZADV 25 (abroad), M/TU 82-85 (back in NYC), DD 159-BTS (if newspaper is about Widow's 2nd return to NYC), A 181?, DD 160-161, (some of her spy missions BIZADV 25 or M/TU 82-85 could take place here), DD 164-165 (in couple with Matt), BIZADV 25 (sex with friend), M/TE 25, M/TU 98

Beast chrono:
X 114
**DD 155-156 or 155-157 should be here
T 271
CA 224-FB
CA 224
A@ 8
A:ROU-FB
A 201/2
A 178
DD 155

Cap's chrono:
CX 20 (12)
**DD 155-156 or 155-157 should be here
T 271
CA:RW&B /12
CA 217
CA 218
CA 219
CA 220
CA 221
CA 224-FB
CA 224
M/TU 71
A@ 8
A:ROU-FB
M/TIO 42
M/TIO 43
A 201/2
A 178
A 179-FB
DD 155

Hercules chrono
A 177
A:KS
**DD 155-156 or 155-157 should be here
DEF 62 applies for Defenders without Natasha
DEF 63
DEF 64
DEF 65
DD 155
DD 156
DD 157 breakup with Natasha

Current Black Widow chrono:
PPSSM 18-FB
A 173 arriving at NY airport, spat with Hercules
A 174
A 175
A 176
A 177
A:KS
DD 155 discusses recent Champions disbanding, offered to inhabit the mansion
DD 156
DD 157 renews affection with Matt, breakup with Hercules
DD 158
BW 1-FB photo with Avengers
A 181
DD 159-BTS newspaper about Widow's return to NYC
M/TU 85 (10:4)-FB
M/TU 83-FB
M/TU 85 (10:5)-FB
M/TU 82
M/TU 83
M/TU 84
M/TU 85
DD 160
DD 161
BIZADV 25 spy mission abroad, fling with unknown, maybe later than DD 165.
DD 164
DD 165
M/TE 25
M/FAN 10 recap ends with breaking up with Hercules, tested for fitness as agent
M/FAN 11-FB
M/FAN 11
M/FAN 12
M/FAN 13
M/TU 98

Thoughts? Anything I missed? I'll wait for input before correcting all listings involved. Maybe Frank or StrayLamb who have worked on this time period will have comments on those issues that could go in various places (A 181, last page of DD 159, BIZADV 25, M/TU 82-85).

[Frank]

First of all, I think we may need to clarify the story regarding the position of marvel team up 82-85 (and other issues in this series) which have been moved a little further from their original location. and which distorts the chronology over this period.

For a few months, I did research that allowed me to highlight these inconsistencies by crossing the work of straylamb on this period, the insights provided by different participants on the supermegadonkey site and my own research work exposed here :

Draft period from 1977 to 1980

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18147&p=63439#p63439

which allowed me to be able to make the following suggestions for Spidey:

Suggestions and corrections for Spider-Man for 1977-1980.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18472&p=64422&hilit ... 980#p64422

I think that the return of black Widow mentioned in DD 159 is indeed the one made by her in A 173 and that the newspaper Bullseyes has in his hands is a relatively recent newspaper but which is not up to date.

Here is what the black widow's timeline will give compared to my Draft period from 1977 to 1980:

PPSSM 18-FB
A 173 arriving at NY airport, spat with Hercules
DD 159-BTS (only newspaper about Widow's return to NY)
A 174
A 175
A 176
A 177
A:KS
DD 155 discusses recent Champions disbanding, offered to inhabit the mansion
DD 156
DD 157 renews affection with Matt, breakup with Hercules
DD 158
DD 159-BTS bullseye show newspaper about Widow's return to NYC
DD 160
DD 161
M/TU 85 (10:4)-FB
M/TU 83-FB
M/TU 85 (10:5)-FB
M/TU 82
M/TU 83
M/TU 84
M/TU 85
BW 1-FB photo with Avengers
A 181
BIZADV 25 spy mission abroad, fling with unknown, maybe later than DD 165.
DD 164
DD 165
M/TE 25
M/FAN 10 recap ends with breaking up with Hercules, tested for fitness as agent
M/FAN 11-FB
M/FAN 11
M/FAN 12
M/FAN 13
M/TU 98

I think DD 159-161 go together as far as the chain of events goes. until this post I had not been able to find the location of DD 160 and this appearance of peter and mary jane which was not connected with the rest.I think their cameo takes place just before or during the Marvel
team up period 74-78.

DD 162 is a fill-in and DD 163-164 for hulk continuity reasons cannot be moved to the same level as DD 159-161.

[StrayLamb]

Black Widow's behind the scenes is a newspaper title "Widow Returns. Natasha in Big Apple" on the last page. That last page is just Bullseye reviewing footage of Daredevil fighting assassins in order to prepare an attack. There is no indication of how long it is after the time the footage was taken.

So first remark, moving the issue based solely on Daredevil's position was not pertinent reasoning.
A better reasoning would have been that the early pages of DD 159 are the day after DD 158.

The other thing is that Bullseye's newspaper could be an old one (meaning Black Widow would not be behind the scenes). In DD 155 the return of the Widow is big news hailed at newstands and the newspaper could be from around DD 155. (It's doubtful her return to NYC would be front page news twice in a short period.)

I agree. Natasha doesn't need a BTS for DD 159 as Bullseye likely has an old newspaper, referencing her return to NYC in DD 155, which he's been holding onto.

BLACK WIDOW III/NATALIA ALIANOVNA ROMANOVA/"NATASHA ROMANOFF"
---
A 181
DD 159-BTS * DELETE
M/TU 85 (10:3 - 10:4)-FB
---

In that same DD 155 Cap & Beast learn the Champions disbanded and welcome Natasha and Hercules to stay. So DD 155 must be very soon after A 173 when Natasha and Hercules arrive at the airport. They have a spat at the airport.

In DD 156 Matt slips in a coma for some indeterminate time.

In DD 157 Hercules regrets the words spoken in A 173. The two events should not be too far from each other. In particular, one would expect Hercules applying for Defenders 62-64 to take place after his breakup with Natasha in DD 157.

Beast gets involved with the X-Men after A 172 (from M/TU 69 to X 114). Currently DD 155 is after T 271, CA 224-FB, CA 224, A@ 8, A:ROU-FB, A 201/2, A 178.

That conversation with Cap, Natasha and Hercules (Champions disbanding and welcome to stay at the mansion) should be as soon as possible after X 114.

I agree.

Beast should appear in DD 155-157 between X 114 & T 271.

BEAST/HENRY "HANK" PHILIP MCCOY
---
X 114 (1 - 9)
CX 20 (12)
X 114 (10 - 17)
DD 155 * MOVE TO HERE
DD 156 * MOVE TO HERE
DD 157 * MOVE TO HERE
T 271
CA 224-FB
CA 224
A@ 8
A:ROU-FB
A 201/2
A 178
DD 155 * MOVE FROM HERE
DD 156 * MOVE FROM HERE
DD 157 * MOVE FROM HERE
M/TU 90
---

Daredevil should appear in DD 155-157 (1 - 9:3) between M/TIO 40 & T 271. DD 159 follows on directly from DD 158. It's the very next day, and Foggy's head is still bandaged. DD 159 (16) is tied to DD 160, but only involves Bullseye.

DAREDEVIL/MATTHEW MICHAEL MURDOCK/"JACK BATLIN"
---
M/TIO 40
DD 155 * MOVE TO HERE
DD 156 * MOVE TO HERE
DD 157 (1 - 9:3) * MOVE TO HERE
T 271
HFLY 9
HFLY 11-FB
DD2 69 (3 - 6)-FB
M/TU 73
FF@ 13
DD 155 * MOVE FROM HERE
DD 156 * MOVE FROM HERE
DD 157 (1 - 9:3) * MOVE FROM HERE
PPSSM 26
PPSSM 27
PPSSM 28
DD 157 (9:4 - 17)
DD 158
DD 159 * MOVE TO HERE
ALIAS 26-FB-BTS
CA 234
CA 235
CA 236
A 190
A 191
DD 159 * MOVE FROM HERE
CA 250
M/TIO 69
DD 160
---

Hercules should appear in DD 155-157 prior to DEF 62.

HERCULES/HERACLES/ALCEAUS
---
A 173
A 174
A 175
A 176
A 177
A:KS
DD 155 * MOVE TO HERE
DD 156 * MOVE TO HERE
DD 157 * MOVE TO HERE
DEF 62
DEF 63
DEF 64
DEF 65
DD 155 * MOVE FROM HERE
DD 156 * MOVE FROM HERE
DD 157 * MOVE FROM HERE
A 181
---

Jarvis should appear in DD 156 prior to CA 218.

JARVIS, EDWIN
---
A 175
A 176-BTS
A 280 (18:5 - 18:6)-FB
DD 156 * MOVE TO HERE
CA 218
CA 220
CA 224
A@ 8
A 201/2
M/TIO@ 3
M/FAN 14
A 178
DD 156 * MOVE FROM HERE
M/TIO@ 4
---

[Leoparis]

BEAST/HENRY "HANK" PHILIP MCCOY
X 114 (1 - 9)
CX 20 (12)
DD 155
DD 156
DD 157
X 114 (10 - 17)
T 271

I suggested for A 155-157 to take place as soon as possible after X 114. In X 114 (10 - 17) Beast is still with Phoenix as they both arrive in Westchester to announce the death of the X-Men to Charles Xavier. I can hardly envision the light scene in DD 155 occurring in the middle of X 114 after their rescue and before going to the X-Mansion.

DAREDEVIL/MATTHEW MICHAEL MURDOCK/"JACK BATLIN"
DD 157 (1 - 9:3)
T 271
HFLY 9
HFLY 11-FB
DD2 69 (3 - 6)-FB
M/TU 73
FF@ 13
PPSSM 26 Oct 78
PPSSM 27
PPSSM 28
DD 157 (9:4 - 17)

An unusual break was done in the middle of DD 157 back in Jan 2020 but now DD 155-157 has been moved earlier and it is possible to return to an unbroken DD 157 (or to the natural breaks within DD 157).

HERCULES/HERACLES/ALCEAUS
A:KS
DEF 62 Aug 78
DEF 63 Sep
DEF 64 Oct
DEF 65 Nov 78
DD 155 Nov 78 (mentions A 173, Jul 78 as recent)
DD 156
DD 157
A 181

In A 173 Hercules returns to NYC from the Champions disbanding. DD 155-157 Hercules tells of the recent Champions disbanding and is invited to stay in Avengers Mansion (DD 155 page 14), A 173 is also presented as recent (DD 157 page 6). DD was a bimonthly and it's likely that issues were produced in advance of their release, explaining why they occur with earlier issues of Avengers. (A distinct possibility is that a return to monthly schedule was anticipated in case of rising sales by producing issues ahead.)

Suggested correction:
BEAST/HENRY "HANK" PHILIP MCCOY
X 114 (1 - 9)
CX 20 (12)
**X 114 (10 - 17) move here
DD 155
DD 156
DD 157
**X 114 (10 - 17) move from here
T 271

DAREDEVIL/MATTHEW MICHAEL MURDOCK/"JACK BATLIN"
**DD 157 (1 - 9:3) delete range
**DD 158 move here
**DD 159 move here
T 271
HFLY 9
HFLY 11-FB
DD2 69 (3 - 6)-FB
M/TU 73
FF@ 13
PPSSM 26
PPSSM 27
PPSSM 28
**DD 157 (9:4 - 17) delete
**DD 158 move from here
**DD 159 move from here

HERCULES/HERACLES/ALCEAUS
A:KS
*DD 155 move here
*DD 156 move here
*DD 157 move here
DEF 62 Aug 78
DEF 63 Sep
DEF 64 Oct
DEF 65 Nov 78
*DD 155 move from here
*DD 156 move from here
*DD 157 move from here
A 181

[michel]

Moving back DD 158-159 so early makes a problem with the Ani-Men : the first ones are killed in IM 116, and we see them in a morgue in DD 158 (8:1)-FB. But now DD 158-159 is before T 271 for Daredevil, and T 271 is before IM 116 for Iron Man.

IRON MAN/ANTHONY EDWARD "TONY" STARK/"RICHARD FRANCO"
...
A:KS
T 270
T 271
M/PRM 47-FB
CA 218
CA 224-FB
CA 224
IM 113 (1 - 8)
M/TU 72
MSM 22-BTS
A@ 8
A:ROU-FB
SW 4-BTS
DEF 63
FF 202
T 273-BTS
GZILL 23
GZILL 24
A 179 (1 - 10:3)
A 180 (3:2)-FB
A 179 (10:4 - 13:6)
A 180 (3:3)-FB
A 179 (13:7 - 17)
A 180
DS2 35
IM 113 (9 - 17)
IM 114
IM 115
IM 116
IM@ 11/4
...

[Frank]

I find that the latest analyzes by leoparis and straylamb are relevant regarding the sequence of events between the avengers and daredevil issues. Everything indicates that the following daredevil issues (157-159) take place not long after Avengers 173. Michel rightly recalls an important detail of continuity that cannot be ignored.

Released after iron man 116, daredevil 158 must logically arrive after iron man 116 to respect the continuity of events.

Which brings me to the question regarding the arc of iron man 113-116 being cut in 2 with iron man 113 (1-8) and IM 113 (9-17) -IM 116. what drives this?

I say well If we can put this arc (IM 113-116) together without causing conflict in the continuity of the avengers who appear in this arc, bring it up and insert it between the break of daredevil 157 (1-9:2)

And (9:3-17) and after D 158-161

We can keep the appearances of the characters intact in T 271, respect the continuity of the ani men and replace the issues according to contemporary daredevil (158-161).

A:KS

D 155
D 156
D 157 (1-9:2)

T 270 (iron man)
T 271 (iron man)
M/PRM 47-FB (iron man)
CA 218 (iron man)
CA 224-FB (iron man)
CA 224 (iron man)
IM 113-116 death of ani men (iron man)

DD 158 (8:1)-FB. morgue
DD 158 (8:2)-FB. new ani men

D 157 (9:3-14)
D 157 (15-17) appearance of new ani men
D 158-161

Which allows me to bounce back on the proposal I made previously concerning D159-161

I think DD 159-161 go together as far as the chain of events goes. DD 160 and this appearance of peter and mary jane which was not connected with the rest in their current chronology.I think their cameo takes place just before the Marvel
team up period 74-78 which comes a bit later in the chronology.

[dimadick]

Moving back DD 158-159 so early makes a problem with the Ani-Men : the first ones are killed in IM 116, and we see them in a morgue in DD 158 (8:1)-FB. But now DD 158-159 is before T 271 for Daredevil, and T 271 is before IM 116 for Iron Man.

That flashback in DD 158 is not connected chronologically to the rest of the issue. The issue includes an extended retcon, explaining what Death-Stalker/Philip Wallace Sterling was up to since his supposed death/disappearance in DD 41. He was able to visit Earth for short time periods ( a few hours at most), due to the nature of his powers. He spend quite some time stealing equipment for his revenge. His visit to the morgue was in preparation of Death-Stalker's creation of a new version of the Ani-Men, the version which debuted in DD 157.

[dimadick]

Released after iron man 116, daredevil 158 must logically arrive after iron man 116 to respect the continuity of events.

Iron Man 116 was published in November 1978, while Daredevil 158 was published in May 1979.

[michel]

His visit to the morgue was in preparation of Death-Stalker's creation of a new version of the Ani-Men, the version which debuted in DD 157.

That puts the morgue FB before DD 157-159, and as I said through Daredevil and Iron Man's listings we have DD 158-159 before IM 116. We can't have the first Ani-Men dead in a morgue before they're killed !

[StrayLamb]

Combining what everyone's written above, and eliminating the gap in IM 113 as Frank suggested, while avoiding an unnatural break in the DD issues, the following sequence may work, and somewhat follows the publication order..

---
A 173-177
X 114 (10 - 17)-117
ASM 172-180
T 269-271
FF 192-201
CA 217-224
PPSSM 12-15
M/TU 71
PPSSM 16-20
IM 113-116
DD 158-FB
DD 155-159 (1 - 15)
BW 1-FB
---

Alternatively, the following sequence, which keeps the DD issues closer to X-Men as Leoparis suggested, but deviates significantly from the publishing order..

---
A 173-177
X 114 (10 - 17)-117
IM 113-116
DD 158-FB
DD 155-159 (1 - 15)
BW 1-FB
ASM 172-180
T 269-271
FF 192-201
CA 217-224
PPSSM 12-15
M/TU 71
PPSSM 16-20
---

Thoughts?

[Frank]

I spotted a problem in the list below which concerns Iron Man 113-116 compared to FF 192-201. Which is not included in the list above.
In the second list IM 113-116 (time Stark returned from the moon) should go after FF 192-201.
In FF 193, there is a passage where Reed Reed "wishes that he could have conferred with Tony Stark before taking his job".

,but Stark is unavailable due to being on the moon, placing this circa Iron Man #110.

[Leoparis]

Combining what everyone's written above, and eliminating the gap in IM 113 as Frank suggested, while avoiding an unnatural break in the DD issues, the following sequence may work, and somewhat follows the publication order..

---
A 173-177 Jul-Nov 78
X 114 (10 - 17)-117 Oct 78 - Jan 79
ASM 172-180 Sep 77 - May 78
T 269-271 Mar-May 78
FF 192-201 Mar-Dec 78
CA 217-224 Jan-Aug 78
PPSSM 12-15 Nov 77- Feb 78
M/TU 71 Jul 78
PPSSM 16-20 Mar-Jul 78
IM 113-116 Aug-Nov 78
DD 158-FB
DD 155-159 (1 - 15) Nov 78-Jul 79
BW 1-FB
---

Alternatively, the following sequence, which keeps the DD issues closer to X-Men as Leoparis suggested, but deviates significantly from the publishing order..

---
A 173-177 Jul-Nov 78
X 114 (10 - 17)-117 Oct 78 - Jan 79
IM 113-116 Aug-Nov 78
DD 158-FB
DD 155-159 (1 - 15) Nov 78-Jul 79
BW 1-FB
ASM 172-180 Sep 77 - May 78
T 269-271 Mar-May 78
FF 192-201 Mar-Dec 78
CA 217-224 Jan-Aug 78
PPSSM 12-15 Nov 77- Feb 78
M/TU 71 Jul 78
PPSSM 16-20 Mar-Jul 78
---

Thoughts?

DD was bi-monthly. DD 155 picks up from A 173 (Jul 78) and DD 157 refers to A 173. I am of the mind that DD was supposed to return to monthly status with the return of Gene Colan in DD 153. This is what the dates would have been:

DD 149 Nov 77
DD 150 Jan 78
DD 151 Mar 78
DD 152 May 78
DD 153 Jun 78 1st Gene Colan
DD 154 Jul (A 173, Jul, Hercules & Widow return to NYC)
DD 155 Aug (picks up from A 173)
DD 156 Sept
DD 157 Oct
DD 158 Nov
DD 159 Dec 78

I find that the latest analyzes by Leoparis and Straylamb are relevant regarding the sequence of events between the Avengers and Daredevil issues. Everything indicates that the following Daredevil issues (157-159) take place not long after Avengers 173. Michel rightly recalls an important detail of continuity that cannot be ignored.

Released after Iron Man 116, Daredevil 158 must logically arrive after Iron Man 116 to respect the continuity of events.

Which brings me to the question regarding the arc of Iron Man 113-116 being cut in two with Iron Man 113 (1-8) and IM 113 (9-17) -IM 116. What drives this?

I say, Well, if we can put this arc (IM 113-116) together without causing conflict in the continuity of the Avengers who appear in this arc, bring it up and insert it between the break of Daredevil 157 (1 - 9:2) and (9:3 - 17) and after DD 158-161.

We can keep the appearances of the characters intact in T 271, respect the continuity of the Ani-Men and place the issues according to contemporary Daredevil (158-161).

A:KS

D 155
D 156
D 157 (1 - 9:2)

T 270 (Iron Man)
T 271 (Iron Man)
M/PRM 47-FB (Iron Man)
CA 218 (Iron Man)
CA 224-FB (Iron Man)
CA 224 (Iron Man)
IM 113-116 death of Ani-Men (Iron Man)

DD 158 (8:1)-FB morgue
DD 158 (8:2)-FB new Ani-Men

D 157 (9:3 - 14)
D 157 (15 - 17) appearance of new Ani-Men
D 158-161

Which allows me to bounce back on the proposal I made previously concerning DD 159-161.

I think DD 159-161 go together as far as the chain of events goes. DD 160 and this appearance of Peter and Mary Jane which was not connected with the rest in their current chronology. I think their cameo takes place just before the Marvel
Team-Up period 74-78 which comes a bit later in the chronology.

The mention of A 173 occurs on page 6 of DD 157. Anything after that could take place quite later. There are several possible breaks if you dismiss captions. It may seem unnatural to break DD 157 but we jump from close continuity going back to DD 153 (per page 7) to a point after IM 116 (per page 16). The Ani-Men were most likely supposed to be the originals as they tie with the origin of Death Stalker being their boss, Exterminator, from DD 39, and dialogue was added to refer to their death in Iron Man to make them new ones.

Page 7 starts with a "Next day" caption and includes dialogue about Daredevil's recent troubles back to DD 153, so I think it better to keep with page 6. Panel (9:3) mentions the verbal exchange with Natasha just before. If I had to break that page I would do it between 9:3 and 9:4 (caption "While on the street below").

DD goes to see girlfriend Heather (pages 9-13) to patch things up.
The Ani-Men show up on pages 10-12.

Page 14 starts with a "Next evening" caption and segues into DD 158.

Because of the Ani-Men on pages 10-12, a break on page 9 seemed the only one reasonable.

However, on reading this for the nth time, I came to the idea that you could have the original Ani-Men on pages 10-12 spying on DD, then they take a job for Madame Masque and get killed in IM 116, which delays the plans of Death Stalker who has to get a new team.

To my mind such a break between pages 13 & 14 has four advantages over the break between 9:3 & 9:4:
the original Ani-Men appearing as clues to the real identity of Death-Stalker;
their being recruited to counter the Avengers who foiled Death Stalker's previous attempt on the early pages;
a reason for creating a time gap within DD 157;
Matt explaining to Heather what occurred in DD 153 without any undue delay.

Whether this specific idea gets traction or not we can get both proposals into one:
A 173-177 Jul-Nov 78
X 114 (10 - 17)-117 Oct 78 - Jan 79
DD 155-157 (1 - 9:3) or (1 - 13) Nov 78 - Mar 79
ASM 172-180 Sep 77 - May 78
T 269-271 Mar-May 78
FF 192-201 Mar-Dec 78
CA 217-224 Jan-Aug 78
PPSSM 12-15 Nov 77- Feb 78
M/TU 71 Jul 78
PPSSM 16-20 Mar-Jul 78
IM 113-116 Aug-Nov 78
DD 158-FB
DD 157 (9:4 - 17) or (14 - 17) -159 (1 - 15) Mar-Jul 79
BW 1-FB
---

[StrayLamb]

I spotted a problem in the list below which concerns Iron Man 113-116 compared to FF 192-201. Which is not included in the list above.
In the second list IM 113-116 (time Stark returned from the moon) should go after FF 192-201.
In FF 193, there is a passage where Reed Reed "wishes that he could have conferred with Tony Stark before taking his job".

,but Stark is unavailable due to being on the moon, placing this circa Iron Man #110.

Yeah, i had a feeling the FF were involved somewhere.

To my mind such a break between pages 13 & 14 has four advantages over the break between 9:3 & 9:4:
the original Ani-Men appearing as clues to the real identity of Death-Stalker;
their being recruited to counter the Avengers who foiled Death Stalker's previous attempt on the early pages;
a reason for creating a time gap within DD 157;
Matt explaining to Heather what occurred in DD 153 without any undue delay.

Whether this specific idea gets traction or not we can get both proposals into one:
A 173-177 Jul-Nov 78
X 114 (10 - 17)-117 Oct 78 - Jan 79
DD 155-157 (1 - 9:3) or (1 - 13) Nov 78 - Mar 79
ASM 172-180 Sep 77 - May 78
T 269-271 Mar-May 78
FF 192-201 Mar-Dec 78
CA 217-224 Jan-Aug 78
PPSSM 12-15 Nov 77- Feb 78
M/TU 71 Jul 78
PPSSM 16-20 Mar-Jul 78
IM 113-116 Aug-Nov 78
DD 158-FB
DD 157 (9:4 - 17) or (14 - 17) -159 (1 - 15) Mar-Jul 79
BW 1-FB
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Works for me, and i favor having the break at DD 157 (13/14).

[Frank]

To come back and support the hypothesis that D 160-161 takes place at the same time as D 157-159, a comment by Ben Uren Urich in D 160 says that "Bullseye escaped from the Bellevue institute for psychiatric observation 4 days ago."Bullseye is seen talking with Slaughter at the start of D 159 after he escapes from Bellevue, implying that he escaped from Bellevue during at least in D 157-158.
During D 160; which takes place 4 days after bullseye's escape; we see DD learn that Natacha has been kidnapped and he sets out to look for her.
D 161 takes place during the same evening as D160 which therefore implies that D 157-161 takes place during the same period of time.
Mary Jane and Peter's cameo in D160 takes place during the period they were dating before they broke up when Peter proposed to MJ in ASM 182.