WAR of the REALMS to EMPYRE

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Re: WAR of the REALMS to EMPYRE

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Pocokk wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:54 pm
Pocokk wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:13 pm Where would be DP8 6 placed? He is hanging out with the X-Men, performing his Deadpool acting as usual.
Regarding to Dawn of X, did someone read this (DP8 6) issue and where it could be placed?
I'm still way behind on these issues, and i know that Col_Fury is as well. I'm trying to power thru as many as i can just now, while i have the chance, but the Deadpool's are buried. We'll get there eventually! :wink:
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Re: WAR of the REALMS to EMPYRE

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Pocokk wrote: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:54 pm
Pocokk wrote: Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:13 pm Where would be DP8 6 placed? He is hanging out with the X-Men, performing his Deadpool acting as usual.
Regarding to Dawn of X, did someone read this (DP8 6) issue and where it could be placed?
From the point of view of the X-Men, I don't see many elements that can help with the placement. It certainly takes place after the first cycle of Excalibur, since it mentions what happened to Rogue, which in the meantime has recovered and is present on Krakoa.

Lorna is not wearing the X-Factor costume, but is also seen in X Of Swords wearing the old uniform when she is not operating with X-Factor.

I would say it also takes place after Deadpool and Wolverine meet in Black Cat 9-10.

From Deadpool's point of view, the events that should lead to the King In Black tie-in happen pretty fast, but there's also a pause in DP8 6 between Wade's return from Krakoa and the revelation of Elsa's dying. .
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CM9 17 is a stand-alone story, and guest stars Spectrum, Hazmat, Spider-Woman, Wolverine, and Ms Marvel. Everyone's wearing warm clothing. Ms Marvel is in her classic costume, the others are all in civvies. It's after the mutants have gone public with Krakoa, and probably before Outlawed. It's definitely before Empyre. Maybe just before the events of XFOR6 1 for Wolverine. It's poker night, which is usually a saturday night in the MU.
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Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling (4 - 11:2)-FB takes place "a few months" before Empyre. Wiccan is hanging out with Strikeforce, so i would probably place this immediately after STRKFOR 1-6.
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Here's my take on everything i've gone thru so far, with short notes for my deviations from the current list..

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WOTR
T5 15 [July 4?]
CHMPS3 7 [the night of WOTR's end]
A7 21 (Cap not in prison or hiding) [day after WOTR]
TSIM 14-FB, 14 [very shortly after WOTR]
T5 16
PKK 1-5 (Foggy appears)
UX5 16-FB, 16
V4 16 [less than a week after WOTR?]
FUFIF:CRSCNT&IO 1
DH2 1-FB
DD 609-612 (Daredevil "dies")
MWF 1-xxx (Daredevil in hospital)
AERO 1/2-6/2 [shortly after WOTR]
UX5 17
AOATLAS3 1 (1-9) [shortly after WOTR]
IHRT 7-12
MIMOSM 5-9
CHMPS3 8-10 (before GOTG5 7 for Nova Corps)
UX5 18-21,22 (1-18:3) (Cap not in prison or hiding)
UX5 22 (18:4) ~ AOXM:O 1 (18:6)
AOXM:O 1 (18:7-30)
UX5 22 (19-28)
W&CA:WPLUS 1
FLSS 1-4 (summer camp) (Piledriver not in prison)
FLSS 1-4 backups
POX 4 (7-14)-FB
???CA8 7 (17-21), 8 (Cap goes to prison) (Piledriver in prison)
ASM5 25/2 (space suit Dr. Strange)
BCAT@ 1
CM9 7 (20) ["ten days" after CM9 7 (10-19)] [July 14?]
DP7 15
ABCRNGV.DP 1 (1-8) ["weeks" before ABCRNG]
FF6 11
MG&DDINO 44
RUN5 28 (6-20), 29-31
SUSM 9
FNSM2 7-10
GSXSTATIX 1
INFERNO2 3 (7)-FB [The following month. Krakoa produces the first Gateway Flower]
HOX 1 (3:1)-FB [mid-July, "five months ago"] [July 20?]
P@5 1
ASM5 30-31-FBs ["weeks" before ABCRNG]
SAVA 1 (1-5), FCBD2019:A/SAVA 1/2, SAVA 1 (6-32), 2-5, 7 (1-10) (Doctor Voodoo captured)
SAVA 6 (1-xxx) (no Punisher apps until after SAVA 6 (xxx-20)) [late July?]
MMSM@ 1
CA8 9-19 (Misty appears) (Piledriver in prison) (Cap in hiding, eventually returns)
Strange Academy 9 (1 - 3)-FB

DP@4 1
INV3 1-6 (Cap not in prison)
G-S 1 [shortly before a school semester]
ASM5 25 (32-45) [start of school semester]
G-S 2 [start of a school semester]
MMSM 1-6 (Ms. Marvel gets new costume) [second day of school semester]
ASM5 26-28 (after FNSM2 7-10)
MG&DDINO 45 [during a school semester]
HOX 1 (3:2)-FB [mid-August, "four months ago"] [August 20?]
FNSM2 11
M/MON 1
SENSM:SI 1/2
MIMOSM 10
M/TU4 4-6 (before CM9 8-11) (new Ms. Marvel costume) [during a school semester]
CM9 8-11 (Tony appears as Iron Man) [spans a week or so]
MIMOSM 10/2
LOKI3 1-5
G-S@ 1 [during a school semester]
FF:PSUN 1, SS:PSUN 1, GOTG:PSUN 1 (before SS:BLK)
GOTG5 1-6 (after UX5 22) (CGR is sent to A7 22)
SS:BLK 1-5 (cont'd from GOTG5 6)
GOTG@3 1
A7 22-30 / FCBD2019:A/SAVA 1, A7 31-32 (Cap appears as normal) (Iron Man missing / returns) (after SS:BLK)
WOV:CCRNG 1 (Misty abducted)
IMMH 18-21 [8 weeks instead of 8 days since WOTR?] [August 26?]
INV3 7-12 (Krakoa preparing?) ["a few weeks" since INV3 6]
FF:4YS 1
BP&AOWKND 1-4 (before ABCRNG)
MG&DDINO 46-47
FNSM2 12-13
FCBD2019:SM/V 1 (both stories) [shortly before ABCRNG]
DS5 18
BCAT3 1-3 (before ABCRNG)
ASM:GB 1/2, 1/3
M/CP3 8/2, 8/3
ASM5 29
MK@2 1
W@4 1
IMMH:GP 1 (Loki appears)
SAVA 6 (xxx-20) [late August?]
INVW 1-5
MMSM 7-8 [MMSM 9 is "next month"] [late August?]
G-S 3 ["2 weeks" after G-S 2]
CNTGN 1-5 (Punisher appears) (X-Men being weirdoes) (Thing not wearing cast)
Fantastic Four: Grimm Noir 1 (Thing not wearing cast)
FF:NEGZ 1 (Thing not wearing cast)
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE (Rick in bathtub) (Misty released) (Cap not in prison or hiding)
G-S 4-5
FF6 12, 13 (1-16), (19-20)-FB (Hulk appearance)
IMMH 22-24 (Rick gets out of tub) [a week since IMMH 20)
BCAT3 4-5 ["1 week" since BCAT 3]
AMJ 1
VALJF 4 (1-3, 8-9)-FB (Moonstar at Krakoa)
VALJF 1-3, 4 (19)-FB, 4-5 (Dr. Strange appears)
BP7 17, 19-FB, 19-20??? (Misty appears)
ABCRNGV.DP 3 (18-20) ["weeks" after ABCRNG]
FF6 13 (17-18) (Thing starts wearing cast) ["2 weeks" after FF6 13 (1-16)]
KT 1-4
MIMOSM 11-13 [after ABCRNG, "3 weeks" since MIMOSM 10]
MWF xxx-5 (Daredevil recovers)
CRAZY4 1
ASM5 32-36 / 2099 [autumn]
ASM5 37-FB (DD appears)
Daredevil 1-2
Daredevil 3 (1 - 19:3)
Daredevil 4 (1 - 3:1)-FB
Daredevil 3 (19:4 - 20)
Daredevil 4 (3:2 - 20)
Daredevil 5
Superior Spider-Man 10 (1 - 5)
Superior Spider-Man 10-12
Doctor Strange 19-20
Venom 2019 Annual 1
Venom 2019 Annual 1/2
Venom 21 (1 - 15)
Web of Venom: The Good Son 1 (1 - 13)
Venom 21 (16 - 20)
Venom 22 (1 - 5)
Future Foundation 5 (1:1 - 1:4)
Web of Venom: The Good Son 1 (14-24) [A few days later]
Web of Venom: The Good Son 1 (16-24)
Venom 22 (6 - 20)
Venom 2-24
Venom 25 (10 - 24)-FB
House of X 1 (3:3) [Mid-September]
Future Foundation 1-5
Fantastic Four 14-18 [Thing still has his arm in a sling][a warm night][Early Autumn]
Fantastic Four 19 (10 - 11)
Future Foundation 5 (22) [A few days later]
Guardians of the Galaxy 7-12
Fantastic Four 19 (12-20) [A week later]
Valkyrie: Jane Foster 6-7
Magnificent Ms Marvel 9-12 [Late September?]
Fantastic Four 20 [After two weeks away in space, the FF return to 4 Yancy Street]
Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man 14 (3 - 20)
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl 46 (20) [Early October?]
Amazing Mary Jane 2
Death’s Head 2 1-4
Bizarre Adventures 1/2
Spider-Verse 1-6
Fantastic Four: Road Trip 1
House of X 1 (3:4) [A Krakoan flower is planted on Mars][Mid-October]
INFERNO2 3 (8)-FB [Four months *later*. Beast and Cypher conducted experiments leading to the creation of the Krakoan wonder-drugs. Has to go before HOX 4:1, where Beast is tending the wonder drug flowers in the Savage Land]

Unbeatable Squirrel Girl 47-50
Ruins of Ravencroft: Carnage 1 (1-5) [Autumn]
Ruins of Ravencroft: Sabretooth 1
Ravencroft 2 (7-10)-FB
Doctor Strange 2019 Annual 1 (1 - 19) [Halloween, Thursday October 31]
Doctor Strange 2019 Annual 1/2 [Halloween, Thursday October 31]
Doctor Strange 2019 Annual 1 (20) [Next morning][Friday November 1]
Star 1-5 [Ripley Ryan hasn’t left her apartment in weeks]
Captain Marvel 13 (14 - 20)-FB
Captain Marvel 12
Captain Marvel 13 (1 - 13)
Captain Marvel 14
Captain Marvel 15 (1 - 16)
Captain Marvel 16 (4 - 5)-FB
Captain Marvel 15-16
Amazing Mary Jane 3 [HERBIE 1.05]
Daredevil 6 [It’s been eight weeks since Matt Murdock put on the Daredevil costume][Autumn]
House of X 1 (4:1) [Mid-November]
Daredevil 7 [The 24th]
Weapon Plus: World War IV 1
House of X 1 (4:2) [Late November]
Yondu 1-5
House of X 1 (4:3) [Early December]
Annihilation - Scourge: Beta Ray Bill 1 (3 - 8)-FB [Beta Ray Bill and Lockjaw defend the planet Gyrax from a monster, followed by a week of feasting]
[Incursion Day: The Negative Zone is invaded by the Cancerverse]
Annihilation - Scourge Alpha 1 (1 - 2) [Incursion Day +1]
Annihilation - Scourge Alpha 1 (3 - 10) [Incursion Day +4]
Annihilation - Scourge Alpha 1 (11 - 16) [Incursion Day +9]
Annihilation - Scourge Alpha 1 (17 - 23) [Incursion Day +14]
Annihilation - Scourge: Silver Surfer 1 (1-15) [Incursion Day + 15]
Annihilation - Scourge Alpha 1 (24 - 30)
Annihilation - Scourge: Nova 1 (1 - 9)
Annihilation - Scourge: Beta Ray Bill 1 (1 - 2)
Annihilation - Scourge: Beta Ray Bill 1 (9 - 30)
Annihilation - Scourge: Nova 1 (10)
Annihilation - Scourge: Fantastic Four 1 (6:4)
Annihilation - Scourge: Fantastic Four 1 (7:1)
Annihilation - Scourge: Fantastic Four 1 (7:3)
Annihilation - Scourge: Fantastic Four 1 [Incursion Day +24]
Annihilation - Scourge: Nova 1 (11 - 30) [Incursion Day +42]
Annihilation - Scourge: Silver Surfer 1 (16 - 30)
Annihilation - Scourge: Omega 1 [Incursion Day + 74]
Web of Black Widow 1 (1 - 6)
Web of Black Widow 5 (6)-FB
Web of Black Widow 1 (7 - 18)
Web of Black Widow 5 (7)-FB
Web of Black Widow 1 (19 - 20)
Web of Black Widow 5 (8)-FB
Web of Black Widow 5 (9:3)-FB
Web of Black Widow 2
Web of Black Widow 5 (9:5)-FB
Web of Black Widow 3
Web of Black Widow 4 (3 - 16)-FB
Web of Black Widow 4-5
Miles Morales: Spider-Man 14-15
INFERNO2 3 (9)-FB [Two months later. Krakoa produces a new flower that creates a no-place outside of its conciousness. This is where Moira is housed]
Powers of X 5 (6 - 16)-FB
House of X 6
Powers of X 1-4
House of X 5 (1 - 4)
House of X 1 (1 - 2) ~ House of X 5 (5 - 6)
House of X 5 (7 - 22) [The UN Security Council votes to recognize Krakoa as a nation]
Powers of X 5 (17 - 19)
House of X 5 (23 - 27) [Two days later][Should be before Selene Gallio’s appearances in CA]
Powers of X 6 (26 - 30:1)
Excalibur 1 (1 - 15)
House of X 6 (6 - 21) ~ Powers of X 6 (30:2 - 34) [Mid-Late December]
Excalibur 1 (16 - 30)
Savage Avengers 2019 Annual 1
Savage Avengers 7 (11 - 20) [Autumn]
Savage Avengers 8-11[After Dec 3 as it’s snowing in NYC; the next day]
Savage Avengers 0
Savage Avengers 12 (1-10) [Two days after #9, the night after #11]
Gwenpool Strikes Back 1-5
Venom 25 [Near the end of the year]
Free Comic Book Day 2020 (Spider-Man/Venom) 1/2 [Venom]
Immortal Hulk 25
Immortal Hulk 26 (1)
Immortal Hulk 26 (14)-FB
Immortal Hulk 26 (18)-FB
Immortal Hulk 26 (2 - 20)
X-Men 1
Thor 1 (1 - 7)
Valkyrie: Jane Foster 9 (1 - 3)-FB
Valkyrie: Jane Foster 8 (1)
Valkyrie: Jane Foster 8-9
Valkyrie: Jane Foster 10 (3 - 5)-FB
Valkyrie: Jane Foster 10
Thor 1 (8 - 17)
Marauders 1 (1 - 2)
Tony Stark: Iron Man 17 (1:1 - 1:4)-FB
Tony Stark: Iron Man 15
Tony Stark: Iron Man 16 (10:2-10:3)-FB
Tony Stark: Iron Man 16-18
Tony Stark: Iron Man 19 (1 - 14)
Marauders 1 (3 - 19)
Marauders 1 (20 - 32)
Incoming 1 (58:2 - 58:3)-FB
Tony Stark: Iron Man 19 (15 - 17)
Daredevil 8
Marauders 3-FB
Amazing Mary Jane 4
Amazing Spider-Man 37 (1 - 17)
Amazing Spider-Man: Sins Rising Prelude 1
Amazing Spider-Man 37 (18 - 20)

Amazing Mary Jane 5
Excalibur 2-3
New Mutants 1 (1 - 15)
Strange Academy 1 [Monday December 30?]
Tony Stark: Iron Man 19 (18-20) [New Year’s Eve]
Agents of Atlas 1/2
Agents of Atlas 1 (10 - 20)
Agents of Atlas 2
Agents of Atlas 3 (1 - 15)
New Mutants 1 (16 - 24) [The New Mutants have been aboard the Starjammer for several days]
New Mutants 2 (1:4)-FB
New Mutants 1 (25 - 32)
New Mutants 2 (2:1 - 2:3)-FB
Morbius 1-5
Strange Academy 2 [First day of school - a week after #1][Monday January 6?]
New Mutants 2 [A few more days have passed]
Daredevil 9
Captain Marvel 17 [After Krakoa goes public, probably before Outlawed]
Deadpool 1-4
Black Cat 6-10
Black Cat 2019 Annual 1 [January]
Black Cat 11-12
X-Force 1 (1 - 5) [Xavier loses contact with Domino]
X-Force 3 (1 - 2)-FB
Strange Academy 3-4 [Saturday January 11?/Sunday January 12?]
Strange Academy 5-6 [Monday January 13?]
Strange Academy 7 (4:5 - 11)-FB
Strange Academy 7 [Two nights later]
Doctor Strange 1-6 [Stephen has been working at the McCarthy Medical Institute for two weeks; Strange Academy already up and running]
X-Force 1 (6 - 32) [More than a week since Xavier lost contact with Domino]

X-Force 2 (1 - 8)
Fallen Angels 1
X-Men 2
Marauders 2-4
X-Men 3
X-Force 2 (9 - 22)
X-Force 3
X-Men 4 [A month (or thereabouts) after the revelation of Krakoa to the world]
Cable 1 [specifically takes place just a "couple of days" after Arakko merges with Krakoa]

New Mutants 3-6 [start]
Daredevil 10-13
Daredevil 14 (1 - 5)

Excalibur 4-5
Fallen Angels 2-4
Ghost Rider 1/2
Spirits of Ghost Rider: Mother of Demons 1 (1 - 20)
Strikeforce 1-6
Empyre: Aftermath Avengers 1 (8:4)-FB [Tanalth the Pursuer leads her forces in battle against the Cotati]
Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling 1 (4 - 11:2) [Wiccan is with Strikeforce]
Sword Master 1/2-6/2 [Brought down from its current position to have Shang-Chi and Sword Master in Madripoor for Incoming]
Incoming 1 (1 - 28) [Carol is still waiting for official word from the military on her reinstatement, but after what happened in Times Square with Star, public opinion is turning in her favor, but she’s trying to avoid Alpha Flight until her military status is cleared up; Cap says if they can’t talk some sense into Namor, they’re heading for a war with Atlantis; already dealing with Dracula and his vampire minions, a possible new Starbrand, and the government-controlled Squadron Supreme of America, plus whatever machinations Mephisto seems to be involved in; Carol wishes she knew where Tony was; a lot of AI in the news lately; Nova is in the middle of a space battle]
Agents of Atlas 3 (16 - 20)
Incoming 1 (29 - 40) [Shang-Chi, Sword Master & Ares in Madripoor’s Lowtown, investigating Atlantis; Aero and Wave in Pan, something is coming for Pan from the sea; Doc Samson talks to Joe Fixit] [Specifically before AoA 5]
Ghost Rider 1 [Sunday, January 19?]
Immortal Hulk 27 [Sunday January 19?]
Immortal Hulk 28-FB

Ghost Rider 2 [Monday, January 20?]
Ghost Rider 3 (4 - 20) [Tuesday January 21?]
Incoming 1 (41 - 44)
Ghost Rider 4
Spirits of Ghost Rider: Mother of Demons 1 (21 - 30)
Ghost Rider 5-7 [Strange has been spending his days working as a doctor]
Black Panther and the Agents of Wakanda 7-8
Agents of Atlas 4
Agents of Atlas 5 (1 - 19)
Atlantis Attacks 1 (5 - 12)
Agents of Atlas 5 (20)
Atlantis Attacks 1 (13 - 20)
Atlantis Attacks 2 (1 - 10) [Namor's ultimatum to Pan]
Atlantis Attacks 2 (11 - 14:2) [Twenty-Four Hours Later; no Atlas characters can appear elsewhere during this period]
Atlantis Attacks 1 (1 - 4) ~ Atlantis Attacks 2 (14:3 - 16)
Atlantis Attacks 2 (17 - 20)
Atlantis Attacks 3-4
Atlantis Attacks 5 (1 - 17)
Incoming 1 (45 - 52) [Knull begins his march across the stars of this universe, beginning with the planet Fallo]
Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling 1 (11:3 - 12)
Incoming 1 (53 - 54:4) ~ Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling 1 (13)
Incoming 1 (54:5 - 55)
Empyre 5 (1:2 - 1:3)-FB
Empyre 5 (2)-FB
Empyre 4 (20)-FB
Empyre 5 (3)-FB
Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling 1 (14)
Incoming 1 (56)
Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling 1 (15 - 17) [Hulkling is first referred to as Emperor Dorrek VIII of the Kree/Skrull Alliance]
Incoming 1 (57 - 80) [HERBIE takes off to join the Robot Revolution]
Incoming 1 (73-80) [“Days” after the discovery of the dead body]
Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling 1 (18 - 29)
Immortal Hulk 28 [Sunday, January 26?]
Immortal Hulk 29 [A week later; Sunday, February 2?]

Immortal Hulk 30-33
Excalibur 6 [Early February]
Excalibur 7 (1 - 10)
New Mutants 3-6 [end]
Daredevil 14 (6-20)
Daredevil 15-16
Fallen Angels 5-6
Miles Morales 16
Ghost-Spider 6-7
Outlawed 1
Ghost-Spider 8
New Mutants 7
X-Force 4-5
New Mutants 8 [A week since NM 6]
X-Men 5
Giant-Size X-Men: Jean Grey and Emma Frost 1
Giant-Size X-Men: Nightcrawler 1
Giant-Size X-Men: Magneto 1
Giant-Size X-Men: Storm 1 ~ Giant-Size X-Men: Fantomex 1 [the last four pages of GSX:FANTOMEX, the "present-day" section, take place during the Storm one-shot]
X-Men 6
X-Force 6
Marauders 7 (1 - 6) -FB
Excalibur 7 (11 - 20)
Excalibur 8 [it's rumored there's going to be a Tiki Bar on Krakoa]
FCBD 2020 (X-Men/Dark Ages) 1
X-Force 7-10 [the Green Lagoon is first seen in XFOR6 9]
Wolverine 1/2
Wolverine 1 (27)-FB
Wolverine 1
Wolverine 2 (1 - 16)
Wolverine 3 (1 - 2)-FB
Wolverine 3 (5 - 6)-FB [Cuckoos ask Wolverine to set them up with Cable]
Wolverine 3 (9)-FB
Wolverine 2 (17 - 20)
Wolverine 3 (1 - 16)
X-Men/Fantastic Four 1
X-Men/Fantastic Four 2 (4)-FB
X-Men/Fantastic Four 2
X-Men/Fantastic Four 3
X-Men/Fantastic Four 4 (1 - 15)
Marauders 5-8 [At least two weeks after Marauders 4, probably at least two weeks after Wolverine 1-3]
Cable 2 [Cable dating Cuckoos, after MRDRS 6]
Marauders 9-12 [Cable already dating Cuckoos; before IM2020]

Thor 1 (18 - 30)
Thor 2-3
Thor 4 (1 - 11)
Iron Man 2020 1 (1 - 13)
Ironheart 2020 1 (1 - 12)
Iron Man 2020 1 (14 - 20) [Two days later]
Iron Man 2020 2 (9 - 11:2)-FB
Ironheart 2020 1 (13 - 20) [Three days later]
Ironheart 2020 2 [Riri stops being Ironheart]
Iron Man 2020 2-3 [days after the incident at the hospital]
Iron Man 2020 4 (1 - 6)
Machine Man 2020 1-2 [the assault on Bain Tower has been crushed]
Machine Man 2020 1/2-2/2
Wolverine 1 (5 - 26)-FB [Kate’s nose has healed; covers 4 days][Winter]
Iron Man 2020 4 (7 - 11) [Days later; the Iron Legion were first deployed days ago during the attack on Bain Tower]
Iron Man 2020 4 (12 - 20)
Iron Man 2020 5
Iron Man 2020 6 (1 - 19)
Wolverine 3 (17 - 20)
Wolverine 4
Wolverine 5 (1 - 20)
Nexus War: Thor 1 (1 - 8)
Wolverine 5 (21:1 - 21:4)
Nexus War: Thor 1 (9 - 10)
Wolverine 5 (21:5 - 21:7)
Thor 4 (12 - 20)
Thor 5
Thor 6 (4 - 16)
Amazing Spider-Man 38-40 [The month following Black Cat 2019 Annual; February]
Amazing Spider-Man 39/2
X-Men 7
X-Men 10 (5 - 12) [while the Cotati are setting up on the Moon, well before the main action of Empyre gets underway]
X-Men 10 (14)-FB
X-Men 10 (13:1 - 13:2)
X-Men 10 (16)-FB
X-Men 10 (13:3 - 13:4)
X-Men 10 (17 - 22) [Scott, Jean, Rachel, Cable and Logan enjoy a day at Chandilor]
New Mutants 9-11
X-Men 8-9 [Not too long after NM 11]
New Mutants 12
Iron Man 2020 6 (20)
Amazing Spider-Man 41-43
Amazing Spider-Man 43/2
Amazing Spider-Man 44
Amazing Spider-Man: Daily Bugle 2 (1 - 4)
Amazing Spider-Man: Daily Bugle 1
Amazing Spider-Man: Daily Bugle 2 (5 - 20)
Empyre: X-Men 1 (4 - 5)-FB [Early March]
Empyre: X-Men 4 (1 - 10)-FB
Free Comic Book Day 2020 (Spider-Man/Venom) 1 [Spider-Man & Black Cat]
Atlantis Attacks 5 (18 - 19) [One Month Later; early-mid March]
X-Men/Fantastic Four 4 (16 - 20) [Three weeks later]

Ruins of Ravencroft: Dracula 1 [Supposedly a few days later, but this must actually be a few weeks later, as per the Ravencroft 2 flashback to a few weeks ago, as the Ravencroft Institute has now been completely rebuilt]
Ravencroft 1 [Appears to be Spring]
Ravencroft 2 [Weeks after Ruins of Ravencroft: Sabretooth; days after Ravencroft 1, but during the same week, as Mr Hyde is still in solitary; the video footage from the Carnage incident is dated 05-15-2019, but the dates on the cameras must have been incorrect]
Ravencroft 3-4
Ravencroft 5 (1 - 14)
Falcon & Winter Soldier 1-5
Ravencroft 5 (15 - 20) [A week later]
Thor 6 [Thor’s been in isolation for months]
Thor 7-8 [Before Empyre]
Strikeforce 7-9 [Clean-shaven and confident-looking Thor]
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 6 1-5
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 6 6-FB

EMPYRE

Just a quick note that there are at least three HERBIE robots running around: the HERBIE that joins the Robot Revolution, another (specifically HERBIE 1.05) that is seen in Amazing Mary Jane, and a third new HERBIE that first appears in Dr Doom 2, which appears to take place after EMPYRE, or at least after IM 2020.

[Edit - a few reshuffles and additions since i first placed this post are shown in bold.]
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Now that I'm done with Conan, I plan to get back to this soon-ish. Not tomorrow, but soon.

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I was just going to do an update on Incoming & Emperor Hulkling, but they pulled in so many other issues between them that it became a good opportunity to tie up everything i'd gone thru so far. It's not fully comprehensive, as you'll see by missing 2020 titles, although what's missing should be pretty easy to slot in. On with the show..
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Note: Leah Williams and Anthony Oliveira confirmed on Twitter that the photo of Prodigy and Speed togheter showed in X-Factor 7 is a reference to Lords of Empyre: Emperor Hulkling. So it's should take place before any appearance of Prodigy on Krakoa, as should be before his death and resurrection.
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The whole of GOTG6 1-6 seems to take place during EMPYRE, elsewhere in the galaxy. It's definitely after Hulking becomes Emperor, which is immediately before EMPYRE. The Feb 16 date shown in issue 2 is pictured inside Moondragon's Mindscape, and i believe should be put down to artistic license. It represents the actual week in which issue 2 was released (Weds 19th Feb).
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ASM5 38 says that BCAT@ 1 was "last month." As Midnighter points out, BCAT@ 1 should take place before BCAT3 12. I have it placed between BCAT3 10 & 11, much later than it's current position. It also says to be continued in Black Cat #11. I know Col_Fury has mentioned the "live feeds" before in connection to this issue, but i thought i'd mention that the feeds Chance initially shows to Foreigner may well have been file footage for demonstration purposes, before he shows the actual live feed of Spidey.

Also, the date shown in BCAT@ 1 of Nov 13 2019 is the date the issue was released, and should have no bearing on the issue's placement.

I really enjoyed this story. :D

Midnighter has also pointed out that all of BCAT3 6-12 & Annual 1 should be placed before Incoming, X-Men 4 and Marauders 4, a position that i agree with, and i've edited that placement into my list above. This also means that DP8 1-4 needs to be moved up as well.
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Amazing Spider-Man: Sins Rising Prelude 1 is a "This Is Your Life" for Sin-Eater, but it takes place immediately before the final scene in ASM5 37 (18 - 20). There are short pieces at the end of ASM5 39, 41 & 43. I'm placing ASM5 39/2 after ASM5 38-40 so as not to interrupt the story, 41/2 before ASM5 40-43, and 43/2 after ASM5 40-43 for the same reason.
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Midnighter wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:16 am2020 iWolverine take place during the Iron Man 2020 event, that is after Incoming, and refers to events in Madripoor that happens in Marauders during the time that Kate is dead. But I will wait for all the mutant titles to be aligned for X of Swords before I analyze them all in depth together.
In the list above, i've moved Marauders up to before IM2020 due to this situation. That also required moving some of the Wolverine issues due to the interaction between Cable & the Cuckoos..

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Giant-Size X-Men: Jean Grey and Emma Frost 1
Wolverine 1 (27)-FB
Wolverine 1
Wolverine 2 (1 - 16)
Wolverine 3 (1 - 2)-FB
Wolverine 3 (5 - 6)-FB [Cuckoos ask Wolverine to set them up with Cable]
Wolverine 3 (9)-FB
Wolverine 2 (17 - 20)
Wolverine 3 (1 - 16)
Marauders 5-8 [At least two weeks after Marauders 4, probably at least two weeks after Wolverine 1-3]
Cable 2 [Cable dating Cuckoos, after MRDRS 6]
Marauders 9-11 [Cable already dating Cuckoos; before IM2020]
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StrayLamb wrote: Sun Jun 07, 2020 11:40 pm In FNSM2 11, MJ takes May out to buy some wigs, as she's started to lose her hair thru chemo. My wife commiserates with you, May! Pete has been out all night battling trolls, left over from War of the Realms, and it seems like this is supposed to be the first issue after that event. In ASM 26-28, May appears to be wearing one of those wigs. I would suggest that FNSM 11 goes very early after WOTR, while clean-up operations are still taking place, possibly just before DD 609. FNSM2 7-10 looks like it should go before WOTR. Possibly during the few days break between ASM5 23 & 24 would be a good spot for it. We don't want to leave Spidey with nothing to do! What do you think?

I just noticed this wig thing also.

I also just read that Miles Morales has been out of action since being kidnapped by the assessor, but is seen in action in FNSM2 11. Which means MIMOSM 10 needs to come before FNSM2 11
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In regard of page count/placement, what do New Mutants 3-6 [start] and New Mutants 3-6 [end] mean?

Also you listed twice the X-Force 4, how is it split?
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Siabod wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:15 amI also just read that Miles Morales has been out of action since being kidnapped by the assessor, but is seen in action in FNSM2 11. Which means MIMOSM 10 needs to come before FNSM2 11
Also to be taken into account for the placement of MIMOSM 10 is the fact that the Amazing Spider-Man is being kept busy by the Savage Six, and it's (at least near) the start of a new semester.
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