Chronology: Birth of the Champions to Birth of the Phoenix

[StrayLamb]

Birth of the Champions to Birth of the Phoenix
Ghost Rider 13 (6:3 - 18)
Ghost Rider 35-FB
Ghost Rider 14 (1 - 16)
Champions 1-2
Ghost Rider 14 (17 - 18)
Ghost Rider 15 (1 - 17)
Champions 3
Jungle Action 21 (9 - 17) [Late September]
Marvel Premiere 26
Marvel Two-in-One 11-12
Fantastic Four 164-165
Marvel Premiere 27
Marvel Two-in-One 13
Ghost Rider 15 (18)
Ghost Rider 16
Marvel Chillers 3 [Tigra]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 29 [Shang-Chi & Iron Fist]
Jungle Action 22
Tomb of Dracula 41-42 [Halloween]
Daredevil 130 [November 3]
Iron Man 147 (14:1 - 14:3)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 153-154 [Homecoming]
Defenders 42 (11:2 - 11:3)-FB
Marvel Two-in-One 14 [New Year’s Eve]
Tomb of Dracula 43 [New Year’s Day]
Marvel Chillers 4-7 [Tigra] [Early January]
Dead of Night 11 [Scarecrow]
Marvel Spotlight 26 [Scarecrow]
Champions 4 [January]
Ghost Rider 17 (2:1 - 2:3)
Midnight Sons Unlimited 6 (19 - 38)
Moon Knight 21/2
Marvel Preview 7 [Satana]
Daredevil 131-133 [Late January]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 19/2-24/2 [Sons of the Tiger][Early February]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 26-27 [Sons of the Tiger]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 29/2 (19)-FB [Abe Brown]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 30/1 (18)-FB [Abe Brown]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 32/2 (8 - 9:7)-FB [Abe Brown]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 29/2 (18)-FB [Bob Diamond]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 30/1 (15)-FB [Bob Diamond]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 32/2 (9:9 - 10)-FB [Bob Diamond]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 30 [Sons of the Tiger]
Amazing Spider-Man 155-156 [Late Winter]
Amazing Spider-Man 157
Amazing Spider-Man 158 (1 - 3)
Amazing Spider-Man 158 (9:1 - 9:3)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 158 (4 - 17)
Amazing Spider-Man 159
Jungle Action 24
Iron Man 86-87
Werewolf by Night 31-33 [intro Moon Knight] [Winter]
Marvel Premiere 28 [The Legion of Monsters]
Marvel Two-in-One 15
Marvel Spotlight 27 [Sub-Mariner]
Doctor Strange 10-13 [Late February]
Tomb of Dracula 44
Doctor Strange 14-16
Doctor Strange 17 (1 - 6:1)
Mystic Hands of Doctor Strange 1/1
Werewolf by Night 34 (7:8-10:7)-FB
Werewolf by Night 34-36
Werewolf by Night 37 (1 - 16)
Marvel Spotlight 28-29 [Moon Knight]
Omega the Unknown 1 (1 - 9)
Marvel Preview 8 [Legion of Monsters][Winter]
Iron Fist 5-FB
Iron Fist 5 [Late Winter to March 10]
Werewolf by Night 37 (17 - 18)
Werewolf by Night 38-41
Omega the Unknown 1 (10 - 12)
Amazing Spider-Man Annual 10
Daredevil 134-136 [Early April]
Daredevil 137 (1-15)
Daredevil III 17-FB
Black Goliath 4-5 [April]
Ghost Rider 15 (18)-FFWD
Ghost Rider 17 (2:4 - 18)
Ghost Rider 18-19
Iron Man 88-91 [April]
Daredevil 137 (16 - 17)
Daredevil 138
Ghost Rider 20
Daredevil Annual 4 (1 - 2:5)
Champions 5-6
Marvel Spotlight 31 [Nick Fury]
Iron Fist 6-7 [May 1]
Marvel Spotlight 32 [Spider-Woman]
Ka-Zar, Lord of the Hidden Jungle 14
Ka-Zar, Lord of the Hidden Jungle 15 (4:2 - 5:2)-FB
Ka-Zar, Lord of the Hidden Jungle 15-20
X-Men 115 (15:1 - 15:3)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 160-162 [Late Spring]
Marvel Team-Up 41-46
Marvel Two-in-One 17 (1-2) ~ Marvel Two-in-One 27 (5:2-5:4)-FB
Marvel Team-Up 47 (5:8)-FB
Marvel Two-in-One 16 (2:3 - 3:5)-FB
Marvel Two-in-One 16
Marvel Two-in-One 17 (4:2)-FB
Marvel Two-in-One 17 (3-9:3)
Marvel Team-Up 47 (6:1 - 6:7)-FB
Marvel Two-in-One 17 (9:4 - 17)
Marvel Team-Up 47
Marvel Two-in-One 18
Captain Marvel 41-46
Marvel Premiere 31-FB
Marvel Premiere 31 [Woodgod]
Marvel Two-in-One 19
Marvel Team-Up 48-50
Marvel Team-Up 51 (1 - 17:5)
Howard the Duck 28
Howard the Duck 5-7
Marvel Treasury Edition 12
Howard the Duck 8 (1 - 8)
Defenders 30
Incredible Hulk 194 [Late Spring]
Incredible Hulk 393/2 (1 - 5)
Fantastic Four 166-167
Incredible Hulk 195
World War Hulk: Gamma Corps 2 (5 - 7)-FB
Fantastic Four 168
Incredible Hulk 196-198
Fantastic Four 169-170
Fantastic Four Annual 11
Marvel Two-in-One Annual 1
Marvel Two-in-One 20
Incredible Hulk 199-203
Hulk Annual 5
Incredible Hulk 204
Defenders 31-34
Defenders 35 (1 - 8:5)
Omega the Unknown 1 (13 - 18)
Omega the Unknown 2 (1 - 10)
Defenders 35 (8:6 - 17)
Omega the Unknown 2 (11 - 17)
Defenders 36-39 [May]
Luke Cage, Power Man 32 [May]
Omega the Unknown 3-5 [May]
Incredible Hulk 205
Defenders 40 [May]
Luke Cage, Power Man 33-35 [May]
Luke Cage, Power Man Annual 1 [June]
[Alex Summers & Lorna Dane head to Rio Diablo to work on their doctorates (ref. UXM 97)]
Captain America: Marvels Snapshots 1 (8:4 - 12)
Captain America 194-200
Captain America’s Bicentennial Battles [July 4]
Captain America: Marvels Snapshots 1 (13 - 18)
Iron Man Annual 3 (2 - 7)
Marvel Spotlight 33 [Deathlok the Demolisher] [July]
Iron Man Annual 3 (8 - 25)
Spider-Man Family II 1/3 [Hellcat & Black Cat]
Champions 7 (1 - 10)
Gambit & The Champions: From the Marvel Vault 1
Champions 7 (11 - 17)
Champions 8-10
Ghost Rider 21 [Summer]
Luke Cage, Power Man 37-FB
Amazing Spider-Man vs Prodigy [Late Summer]
Strange Tales 178-181
Warlock 9-15
Luke Cage, Power Man 37-40 [September]
Howard the Duck 8 (9 - 11) [September]
[Prof X begins experiencing highly detailed vivid dreams of an outer space battle (ref. UX 97)]
Marvel 6/2
Captain America 201
Skull the Slayer 1-8
Amazing Spider-Man 163 (1 - 9)
Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man 1 [Early October]
Howard the Duck 8 (12) [October]
Captain America 202-203
Marvel Team-Up 52
Amazing Spider-Man 163 (10 - 17)
Amazing Spider-Man 164
Amazing Spider-Man 197 (2:5 - 3:2)-FB
Peter Parker, the Spectacular Spider-Man 2-3 [Autumn]
Iron Man Annual 3 (26 - 35)
Doctor Strange 27 (4:4 - 4:6)-FB
Howard the Duck 8 (13 - 18)
Defenders Annual 1
[Presidential Election - November 2]
Defenders 47 (12:2 - 12:4)-FB
Howard the Duck 9 (1 - 5) [November 3]
Defenders 41
Howard the Duck 9 (6 - 17) [November 5-6]
Rampaging Hulk II 1-3
Avengers 150-152
Avengers 153 (5:2 - 5:5)-FB
Hulk: Let the Battle Begin 1
Fantastic Four 171 (1 - 4)
Rampaging Hulk II 4-6
Thor 239 (12:6 - 18)
Thor 240-245
Defenders 42 (11:4 - 11:7)-FB
Doctor Strange Annual 1 (3:2 - 3:8)-FB
Doctor Strange 17 (6:2 - 17)
Doctor Strange 18
West Coast Avengers 20 (8:3 - 8:5)-FB
Doctor Strange 19
Son of Satan 2-7 [Autumn]
Howard the Duck 10-11
Howard the Duck 12 (1 - 14:7)
Fantastic Four 171 (5 - 17)
Fantastic Four 172-174
Fantastic Four 175 (1 - 15)
Incredible Hulk 206-207
Incredible Hulk 208 (1 - 2:2)
Fantastic Four 175 (16 - 17)
Fantastic Four 176 (1 - 7:6) [Mid-November (per FF Index 10)]
Marvel Two-in-One 21-23
Super-Villain Team-Up 5
Daredevil Annual 4 (2:6 - 35)
Super-Villain Team-Up 6
Super-Villain Team-Up 7 (1 - 3)
Super-Villain Team-Up 7 (4 - 17)
Super-Villain Team-Up 8 (1 - 15)
Avengers Annual 6/2
Avengers 153 (5:6 - 13)-FB
Avengers 153
Avengers Annual 6
Avengers 154
Super-Villain Team-Up 9 (15)-FB
Super-Villain Team-Up 8 (16 - 17)
Super-Villain Team-Up 9
Avengers 155-156
Super-Villain Team-Up 10-12
Daredevil 139
Marvel Two-in-One 24
Iron Man 92-94
Werewolf by Night 42-43
Ms Marvel 1-4
Quasar 1 (1 - 23:2)
Nova 1-3
Daredevil 140-144
Rampaging Hulk 1/2-6/2 [Bloodstone]
Rampaging Hulk 8/2-9/2 [Bloodstone]
Captain America 204-216
Thor 246-247
Marvel Spotlight 30 [Warriors Three]
Thor 248-254
Thor 255 (1 - 5)
Nova 4
Thor 255 (6 - 17)
Power Man and Iron Fist 70 (9:7)-FB
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 31 [Sons of the Tiger, Shang-Chi & Iron Fist]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 32/2 [Sons of the Tiger]
Deadly Hands of Kung Fu 33/1 [Shang-Chi]
Master of Kung Fu 43-51 [Late Autumn]
Uncanny X-Men 103-FB
Uncanny X-Men 104 (9:1-9:4)-FB ~ Champions 17 (13:1-13:3)-FB
Defenders 42 (16:2 - 16:3)-FB
Marvel Two-in-One 25 [December]
Omega the Unknown 6-10
Classic X-Men 6/2
Marvel Comics Super Special 1 (1 - 19) [Kiss]
Howard the Duck 12 (14:8 - 17)
Howard the Duck 13 (1 - 3)
Marvel Comics Super Special 1 (20 - 39) [Kiss]
Howard the Duck 13 (4 - 17)
Howard the Duck 14
Avengers 157-160 [Christmas]
Uncanny X-Men 98 (9 - 11)-FB
Marvel Holiday Special 1991/1
Uncanny X-Men 98 (1 - 8)
Amazing Spider-Man 165 [Christmas]
Amazing Spider-Man 166 (1 - 17) [Christmas]
Marvel Treasury Edition 13 [Giant Super-Hero Holiday Grab-Bag]
Son of Satan 8 [Christmas]
Amazing Spider-Man 166 (18) [Christmas]
Sensational Spider-Man Annual 1 (16 - 17 ~ 20 - 21)-FB [Christmas]
X-Men: Hellfire Gala 3 (13 - 16)-FB [Christmas]
Uncanny X-Men 97 (1 - 6:5)
Iron Fist 8-10
Uncanny X-Men 96 (7 - 8)
Uncanny X-Men 96 (18:6)
Uncanny X-Men 97 (6:6 - 18)
Marvels: Eye of the Camera 3 (17:4 - 18)
Uncanny X-Men 98 (12 - 17) [December 28]
Uncanny X-Men 99 (1 - 2)
Uncanny X-Men 99 (3 - 17) ~ Classic X-Men 7 (3 - 20) [December 30]
Uncanny X-Men 100 (1 - 17:1) [December 28-30]
Uncanny X-Men 100 (17:2 - 17:8) ~ Classic X-Men 8/2 (1 - 4)
Uncanny X-Men 101 (1)
Classic X-Men 8/2 (5 - 12)
Uncanny X-Men 101 (2 - 6)
Classic X-Men 9 (7 - 9)
Classic X-Men 7/2 [New Year’s Eve]

[StrayLamb]

I've rebuilt the central portion of this part of the chronology to better reflect the interactions of the Defenders, the Avengers, and the Fantastic Four, based on the following post.. http://www.chronologyproject.com/phpbb2 ... =2&t=15539

[StrayLamb]

I've sorted the Captain Marvels from issue 45 and Ms Marvel from issue 1, plus i've moved Defenders 51-57 & Dr Strange 20-28 into this section prior to Thanos: The Final Threat.

[StrayLamb]

I've moved Incredible Hulk 218-222 & Marvel Premiere 39-40 into this section before Thanos: The Final Threat.

[StrayLamb]

Marvel Spotlight 28-32 have been repositioned, along with Ka-Zar 14-20, Marvel Two-in-One 16-19, Power Man 37-40, Nova 5-6 and Ms Marvel 5.

[StrayLamb]

Another revision for this list, fleshing out some issues for Captain America, Werewolf By Night, Iron Fist, Spider-Man, Super-Villain Team-up, and Deadly Hands of Kung Fu.

[StrayLamb]

List updated with more accurate chronology for Tomb of Dracula and Dr Strange.

[Midnighter]

According to Captain America: Marvels Snapshot, DD 133 (Daredevil vs. Mind-Wave), ASM 157-159 (Dr. Octopus kidnaps aunt May) and IM 86-87 (Iron Man vs. Blizzard) should take place between CA 193 and CA 200.
Or at least, between CA 193 (Madbomb outbreak in Manhattan) and the announcement of Captain America on TV that states that the Madbomb file is closed (that reprise some of the dialogues of CA 200)

At the moment the story of Iron Man is placed in the previous period, while the stories of Daredevil and Spider-Man are placed a little later.

Some time after CA 200 Captain America, Falcon and Iron Man are fighting the Wrecking Crew when they are interrupted by the protagonist's actions. I think there is something to consider regarding H: LBB, IF 11 and FF 168 and the possibility that Wrecking Crew is in Manhattan to better place that sequence, but I don't have those stories available at the moment.

[StrayLamb]

According to Captain America: Marvels Snapshot, DD 133 (Daredevil vs. Mind-Wave), ASM 157-159 (Dr. Octopus kidnaps aunt May) and IM 86-87 (Iron Man vs. Blizzard) should take place between CA 193 and CA 200.
Or at least, between CA 193 (Madbomb outbreak in Manhattan) and the announcement of Captain America on TV that states that the Madbomb file is closed (that reprise some of the dialogues of CA 200)

At the moment the story of Iron Man is placed in the previous period, while the stories of Daredevil and Spider-Man are placed a little later.

CA 193-200 is the Madbomb story by Jack Kirby, who states in the narrative that it’s set in the Bicentennial year (1976). According to the cover (only) of CA 200, this culminates on “Bicentennial Day.” Earlier in the story, it is made clear that the “Big Daddy” Madbomb is set to explode at the start of the Bicentennial year, ie. Jan 1 1976. The winter setting is confirmed in CA 224, where Cap is pulled from the near freezing waters of New York.

The MCP has all of this occuring prior to MTIO 12 for Avengers personnel, who appear in the inventory issue CA 224, which is placed during the days-long gap within CA 198, and MTIO 14 is specifically set on Dec 31 1975.

I’ve separated out CA 193 as it specifically takes place within a month of Falcon’s trial in CA 191 (as stated in Marvels: Eye of the Camera 3), necessitating this to be placed earlier in the scheme. There’s a gap of unspecified duration between CA 193 & CA 194, during which time Cap and Falcon are being gradually exposed to greater intensities of the Madbomb effects by SHIELD, in order for them to develop a resistance.

It's possible that Bicentennial Day could be July 4, but that would require a large gap between CA 224, clearly set during the winter, and the final sequence of CA 198 (5 - 10) to CA 200. That would be possible for Cap, who doesn't appear again until CA's Bicentennial Wars, on July 4.

However, placing IM 86-87 after CA 193 is not possible without altering either CA or IM's established chronologies. IM 86-87 occurs prior to A 146 for Iron Man, but CA 193 occurs after A 146 for Cap.

I don't want to make any changes here until we've had a chance to discuss this a little more, probably after the Marvels Snapshots have been fully analyzed.

[Leoparis]

You have my analysis here.

I agree that the freezing waters in CA 224 point to winter but...

I've just reread CA 224 and I doubt it takes place during the Madbomb epic. For one thing the Madbomb War is over since it's referred to as the last war. The depiction of the Avengers is current, from 1978, not from 1975-76. General Argyle Fist refers to a Madbomb convoy but that's just the army moving dangerous material they captured in CA 200, not any indication that this is before CA 200. Cap mentions recent memory lapses. This refers to the storyline starting in CA 215 and a note directs the reader to recent issues so it was wrong to place the issue more than two years earlier. (The note from Olshevsky should have been ignored. It wasn't phrased as definitive anyway.)

This will free you from placing any part of the Madbomb epic in winter but the established chronologies will have to be reworked.

PS: If CA 224 is nearly contemporary with "recent issues," I'd rather place it before CA 222 or after CA 227...
Now, if Cap considers the Madbomb epic a "war," wouldn't Avengers 154-156, the Korvac saga in A 172-177 and the Thanos conflict in Avengers Annual 7 and MTIO Annual 2 be the latest "wars"?
Three possibilities: either a war is when the US military is involved, "last war" refers to the last one Ken Astor was involved in with Cap or the Madbomb epic indeed took place over several months, growing in stature over the shorter skirmishes mentioned.

[StrayLamb]

I've also just reread CA 224, and i have to agree with you that this story appears to take place after the Madbomb War for the reasons you've stated, and does indeed appear to take place after CA 215, possibly during the large gap between CA 116 & CA 117. This would indeed free up the Madbomb War, allowing it to be placed where Captain America: Marvels Snapshot wants it to go.

[StrayLamb]

The most recent updates are in bold.

[Leoparis]

CA 224 needs to move after ASM 169-170 due to Dr Faustus.

His appearance in ASM follows CA 192 and explains how he managed to survive his fall from the plane. He was believed dead before his appearance in ASM. At the end of the ASM story, he's captured and in prison as shown in CA 224.

This was yet another indication that CA 224 occurred around contemporary issues.

[StrayLamb]

Good catch. Thanks!

[Troutlaw]

Before I start going through this section I've noticed that Marvel Chillers 3-7 is here and in Birth of the Uncanny X-Men. Also Captain Marvel 35-44 is here while Captain Marvel 34-35 is in Death of Gwen Stacy and Captain Marvel 36-44 is in Birth of the Uncanny X-Men.