CONAN

[Col_Fury]

Conan's back at Marvel soon so it's probably time to figure out his existing chronology.

Back in the mid-’90s, Roy Thomas put together a Conan chronology and published it in CONAN SAGA #72-95, then a Red Sonja chronology in SAGA #96, and a Kull chronology in SAGA #97. If there’s anyone alive that knows more about Marvel’s Conan than Roy Thomas, I would have no idea who that would be. I guess I’ll take his word on things.

From what I can see COB 22 reprints COB 1, COB@ 1 reprints COB 2 & 4, COB@ 3 reprints SAVSCO 2-3, GSCO 5 reprints COB 12 & 14-15, KULLB 1 reprints KULLC 1-2 and SAVSCO@ 1 is all reprints. SAVSCO 24 is a retelling of COB 4, SAVSCO 59 is a retelling of COB 37 and SAVSCO 222 is a retelling of COB 1. I don't know if these retellings can fit with the originals, but I guess we'll find out eventually.

I’m not seeing CO@ 6 in Roy's chronology, but I could have missed it.

This doesn't include anything post-1995, since it's from CONAN SAGA (which was cancelled with #97).

I haven't read ANY Marvel Conan, but I'm slowly filling in my collection and plan to get to it kind-of soon-ish (a 2019 resolution!).

Key (potentially):
CO – CONAN (1-11) - 1995
CO:DCIG – CONAN (THE BARBARIAN): DEATH COVERED IN GOLD (1-3) - 1999
CO:F&F – CONAN (THE BARBARIAN): FLAME AND THE FIEND (1-3) - 2000
CO:LOTS – CONAN (THE BARBARIAN): LORD OF THE SPIDERS (1-3) - 1998
CO:ROB – CONAN (THE BARBARIAN): RIVER OF BLOOD (1-3) - 1998
CO:ROOT – CONAN: RAVAGERS OUT OF TIME GN - 1992
CO:ROS – CONAN (THE BARBARIAN): RETURN OF STYRM (1-3) - 1998
CO:SCRS – CONAN (THE BARBARIAN): SCARLET SWORD (1-3) - 1998
CO@ - CONAN (THE BARBARIAN) ANNUAL (1-12) – 1973-1987
COA – CONAN THE ADVENTURER (1-14) – 1994-1995
COB – CONAN THE BARBARIAN (1-275) – 1970-1993
COB2 – CONAN THE BARBARIAN v2 (1-3) - 1997
COB:HOA – CONAN THE BARBARIAN: HORN OF AZOTH GN - 1990
COB:U – CONAN THE BARBARIAN: THE USURPER (1-3) - 1997
COK – CONAN THE KING (20-55) – 1983-1989
CORG – CONAN THE ROGUE GN - 1991
COSAV – CONAN THE SAVAGE (MAGAZINE) (1-10) - 1995
GSCO – GIANT-SIZE CONAN (THE BARBARIAN) (1-5) – 1974-1975
KCO – KING CONAN (1-19) – 1980-1983
KULLB – KULL & THE BARBARIANS (MAGAZINE) (1-3) - 1975
KULLC – KULL THE CONQUEROR (1-10) - 1971
KULLC2 – KULL THE CONQUEROR v2 (1-2) - 1982
KULLC3 – KULL THE CONQUEROR v3 (1-10) - 1983
KULLD – KULL THE DESTROYER (11-29) - 1973
M/FEA2 – MARVEL FEATURE v2 (1-7) – 1975-1976
M/GN 19 – MARVEL GRAPHIC NOVEL 19 (CONAN: WITCH QUEEN OF ACHERON) - 1985
M/GN:COBSOS – MARVEL GRAPHIC NOVEL: CONAN THE BARBARIAN IN THE SKULL OF SET - 1989
M/GN:COISLES – MARVEL GRAPHIC NOVEL: CONAN OF THE ISLES - 1988
M/GN:COR – MARVEL GRAPHIC NOVEL: CONAN THE REAVER - 1987
M/GN:KULLVOS – MARVEL GRAPHIC NOVEL: KULL, THE VALE OF SHADOW - 1989
M/SSPEC – MARVEL SUPER SPECIAL (MAGAZINE) (2, 9) – 1977-1986
RS – RED SONJA (1-15) – 1977-1979
RS2 – RED SONJA (1-2) - 1983
RS3 – RED SONJA (1-13) – 1983-1986
RS:SH – RED SONJA: SCAVANGER HUNT - 1995
SAVSCO – SAVAGE SWORD OF CONAN (MAGAZINE) (1-235) – 1974-1995
SAVT – SAVAGE TALES (MAGAZINE) (1-5) – 1971

CONAN
COB 1-FB
COB 232-240 (“young Conan”)
SAVSCO 119-FB
SAVT 4-FB
SAVSCO 89 (11 or 12 yrs old)
SAVSCO 203/2 (14 yrs old)
COB 48-FB (15th birthday)
SAVSCO 227
COB 8-FB (15 yrs old)
SAVSCO 6/2
SAVSCO 83/2
SAVSCO 182/2
COB 31-FB
COB 1-2 (16 yrs old)
COB 69
SAVSCO 39
COB 254-FB
COB 92
COB 3
SAVSCO 180 (17 yrs old)
SAVSCO 174 (fledgling thief)
COB 4
SAVSCO 165
SAVSCO 99/2
SAVSCO 100 (18 yrs old)
SAVSCO 84
SAVSCO 93
SAVSCO 104
COB 5
SAVSCO 81
COB 6
COB:HOA
SAVSCO 8
COB 7
SAVSCO 118
SAVSCO 161
COB 8-12
SAVSCO 53-55 (Isparana)
(Conan regains his soul in an issue of SAVSCO sometime after #210?)
SAVSCO 56-58
COB 116
SAVSCO 100/2
SAVSCO 91/2
SAVSCO 77
COB 13
SAVSCO 120
COB 14-15
SAVSCO 70
SAVSCO 123
SAVSCO 189
SAVSCO 176
COB 17-21, 23-29 (Red Sonja)
SAVSCO 132-FB (trained in several weapons)
COB 30-35
SAVSCO 153/2
COB 36
SAVSCO 123/2
SAVSCO 110/2
SAVSCO 154/2
SAVSCO 113/2
COB 37
SAVSCO 3/3
SAVSCO 115/2
SAVSCO 123/2
COB 38-39
SAVSCO 207-210
M/SSPEC 9
COB 40-42
SAVSCO 1
COB 43-44
SAVT 5
COB 45
SAVT 4
SAVT 1
SAVSCO 34
COB 46-63, 65-66 (Bêlit)
M/FEA2 6
COB 67
M/FEA2 7
COB 68-77, 79-83
SAVSCO 97
COB 84-86, 88-91, 93-115, 118-154
CO@ 8
COB 155-170
CO@ 10
COB 186
CO@ 9
SAVSCO 182
SAVSCO 185
SAVSCO 116
SAVSCO 115
SAVSCO 61
SAVSCO 36
COB 262-FB
SAVSCO 185/2
SAVSCO 71
SAVSCO 78-79
SAVSCO 91
SAVSCO 90
SAVSCO 96
SAVSCO 108-109
SAVSCO 98
SAVSCO 177
SAVSCO 186
SAVSCO 171
COB 171-185, 187-199
CO@ 12
COB 200-203
CO@ 11
COB 204-220, 222-231
SAVSCO 74
SAVSCO 119
SAVSCO 157
SAVSCO 64
SAVSCO 141-142
SAVSCO 188/2
SAVSCO 113
SAVSCO 101
M/GN:COBSOS
SAVSCO 66
SAVSCO 136
SAVSCO 80
SAVSCO 116/2
SAVSCO 108/2
M/GN 19
SAVSCO 117, 117/2
SAVSCO 121
SAVSCO 216
SAVSCO 155
SAVSCO 211/2-212/2
SAVSCO 158
SAVSCO 130
SAVSCO 105
SAVSCO 159
SAVSCO 162
SAVSCO 126
SAVSCO 89
SAVSCO 111
COB 241-248
SAVSCO 2
COB 249-250
SAVSCO 194/2-195/2, 207/2-210/2
COB 251
SAVSCO 3
SAVSCO 98/2
SAVSCO 181/2
SAVSCO 29
COB 252-275 (almost 30 yrs old)
SAVSCO 218-221
CO:ROOT
SAVSCO 223/2-224/2
SAVSCO 226
SAVSCO 229-235
SAVSCO 131
SAVSCO 110
SAVSCO 160
SAVSCO 4
SAVSCO 62
M/GN:COR
SAVSCO 38
CORG
SAVSCO 223-224
SAVSCO 5-6
SAVSCO 58/2
SAVSCO 7, 9
SAVSCO 76
SAVSCO 87-88
SAVSCO 91/3
SAVSCO 183
SAVSCO 63
SAVSCO 102
SAVSCO 35
SAVSCO 11-12
SAVSCO 28
SAVSCO 65
SAVSCO 14
SAVSCO 211/2-212/2 (early 30s yrs old)
SAVSCO 44
SAVSCO 37
SAVSCO 189/2
SAVSCO 146-154 (Roy says this can’t be Nemedia)
SAVSCO 15
SAVSCO 31-32
SAVSCO 165
SAVSCO 111/2
SAVSCO 85-86
SAVSCO 114/2
SAVSCO 16-19
SAVSCO 179/2
SAVSCO 95
SAVSCO 175
SAVSCO 103
SAVSCO 173
SAVSCO 109/2
SAVSCO 125
SAVSCO 118/2
SAVSCO 112
SAVSCO 156
SAVSCO 181
SAVSCO 128
SAVSCO 164
SAVSCO 132
SAVSCO 188
SAVSCO 20-21
SAVSCO 178
SAVSCO 144-145
SAVSCO 114
SAVSCO 99
SAVSCO 45
SAVSCO 227/2
SAVSCO 190-199
SAVSCO 202-206
M/SSPEC 2
SAVSCO 73
SAVSCO 122
SAVSCO 75
SAVSCO 82-83
SAVSCO 22-23
SAVSCO 129
SAVSCO 67
SAVSCO 94
SAVSCO 40-43
SAVSCO 68-69 (late 30s yrs old)
SAVSCO 225
SAVT 2-3
SAVSCO 211-213
SAVSCO 215
SAVSCO 217
SAVSCO 25
SAVSCO 60
SAVSCO 184
SAVSCO 127
SAVSCO 124
SAVSCO 187
SAVSCO 92
SAVSCO 106-107
SAVSCO 170
SAVSCO 179
SAVSCO 133-134
SAVSCO 163
SAVSCO 172
SAVSCO 135
SAVSCO 112/2
SAVSCO 137-140
SAVSCO 143
SAVSCO 26-27
SAVSCO 46
SAVSCO 201
SAVSCO 47-48
SAVSCO 59/2, 76/2
SAVSCO 49-52 (becomes King Conan)
SAVSCO 214
CO@ 2
SAVSCO 227/4
SAVSCO 205/2
SAVSCO 30
GSCO 1-4
SAVSCO 8/5
SAVSCO 10
CO@ 4-5 (Conan marries Zenobia)
KCO 5-8 (Conan roughly early 40 yrs old)
SAVSCO 166-169 (soon after Conan’s son is born)
SAVSCO 177/3 (Conan’s son is 8 yrs old)
KCO 1-4 (Conan’s son is 12-13 yrs old)
KCO 9-19 (Conan’s son is 13-15 yrs old, Conan in his early to mid-50s yrs old)
COK 20-28 (Conan has been king for 20 years, his son is 18 yrs old)
COK 50-55 (a year or more later) (CONAN SAGA is pretty specific about this being out of order)
COK 29-49 (spans about a year)
CO@ 7 (1-33), M/GN:COISLES (34-93) (Conan is almost 70 yrs old)

KULL
SAVSCO 190/2-193/2
M/GN:KULLVOS
SAVSCO 196/2-199/2
SAVSCO 3/2
SAVSCO 202/2
SAVSCO 229/3-233/3
SAVSCO 152/2
SAVSCO 125/2
SAVSCO 215/2
SAVSCO 122/2
M/GN:KULLVOS
SAVSCO 138/2
KULLC 1-2
MOTP 16
KULLC 3
COB 52-FB
KULLC 4
SAVSCO 2/2
KULLC 5-7
COTL 10
SAVSCO 23/2
KULLC 8-10
SAVSCO 55/2
SAVSCO 34/3
COB 10
KULLD 11-15
KULLB 2-3
SAVSCO 9/2
KULLD 16-29
M/PRV 19
BIZADV 26
KULLC2 1-2
KULLC3 1-10
SAVSCO 42/2-43/2
COB 68
SAVSCO 120/2-121/2
SAVSCO 132/2
SAVSCO 135/2
SAVSCO 124/2-125/2
SAVSCO 128/2
SAVSCO 133/2
SAVSCO 139/2
SAVSCO 145/2
SAVSCO 140/2
SAVSCO 148/2-149/2
SAVSCO 159/2
SAVSCO 150/2-152/2
SAVSCO 158/2
SAVSCO 215/3
SAVSCO 161/2
M/GN:KULLVOS
SAVSCO 165/2
SAVSCO 182/3
SAVSCO 169/3
SAVSCO 172/3
SAVSCO 183/2
SAVSCO 119/2
SAVSCO 126/2-127/2
M/GN:KULLVOS
SAVSCO 129/2-130/2
SAVSCO 136/2
SAVSCO 134/2
SAVSCO 147/2
CO:ROOT
SAVSCO 226

RED SONJA
KULLB 3/2
SAVSCO 78/2
COB 23-24
SAVSCO 1/2
SAVSCO 153/2
SAVSCO 187/2
SAVSCO 1
COB 43-44
RS3 3-FB
COB 48
KULLB 2/3
M/FEA2 1
COB 66
M/FEA2 6
COB 67
M/FEA2 7
COB 68
RS 1-6
SAVSCO 23/3
RS 7-15
COB 115
M/SSPEC 9
RS2 1-2
SAVSCO 225/2
RS3 2-4
RS3 8-13
COB 195-199
COB@ 12
COB 200
COB 205
COB 240-250
SAVSCO 207/2-210/2
SAVSCO 229/2
SAVSCO 192/3
SAVSCO 230/2-233/2
CO:ROOT
SAVSCO 223/2-224/2
SAVSCO 226
SAVSCO 229-230
SAVSCO 144-145
SAVSCO 170
SAVSCO 179
M/TU 79 (ghost)
SM/RS 1 (ghost)
SM/RS 2 (ghost)
SM/RS 3 (ghost)
SM/RS 4 (ghost)
SM/RS 5 (ghost)

And this is what the MCP already has:

CONAN
COSAV 2/2
COSAV 3/2
COSAV 4/2
[COB 100]
SAVSCO 219
SAVSCO 220
[COB 275/2]
SJNS-FB
TCORPS 3
[SAVSCO 128]
COV.RUNE
[COSAV 4]

KULL
COTL 10-FB
KULLC 1 (8:7 - 18:9)-FB
COTL 10
MOTP 16
KULLC 1
KULLC 2
KULLC 3
SAVSCO 213/2
X@ 13/3-FB
SAVSCO 213/2
TOD 26-FB

[wolverine7230]

If there’s anyone alive that knows more about Marvel’s Conan than Roy Thomas, I would have no idea who that would be.

I'd guess you've never seen the SirMuddy chronology then. It's based on the Roy Thomas chronology but with all the stuff published later and with the kinks ironed out.

Although I've got a feeling Marvel is gonna retcon all the old stuff out of continuity anyway, especially with the first Jason Aaron having said "our opening 12-issue arc will thread together many different periods and aspects of Conan's journey, from Cimmeria to Aquilonia and beyond. That's why this story is called 'The Life and Death of Conan.' "

[Col_Fury]

I have no doubt that SirMuddy is a big fan, but Roy wrote/edited/shepherded Conan at Marvel for nearly 30 years. I'm sure SirMuddy is well-versed (and I'll see if I can find his chronology (which would be more up-to-date, as I'm sure he worked on it at some point after 1995) somewhere and take a look at it), but c'mon. It's Roy Thomas.

As far as retcons go, we'll see what happens but the existing Conan stuff is definitely Earth-616. Kulan Gath met the X-Men, Red Sonja met Spider-Man (or at least her ghost did) twice, and that's just off the top of my head. This new stuff will likely end up being it's own thing (like how the Dark Horse Conan had no ties to the classic Marvel Conan).

[wolverine7230]

Oh of course, I only used that quote to transition into my mention of SirMuddy's chronology.

And I have a good feeling the new stuff will be regarded as "canon", would definitely not be surprised to have some form of crossover.
And in my opinion, those clarifications of canon (as I shall refer to them as), do not necessarily make the old Conan stuff canon.

But yeah, should be interesting to read the new stuff, what with three ongoings and undoubtedly countless minis.

[StrayLamb]

I haven't read ANY Marvel Conan, but I'm slowly filling in my collection and plan to get to it kind-of soon-ish (a 2019 resolution!).

Boy, are you gonna be in for a treat - some of the best comics Marvel released during the 70's, especially the early Barry Smith issues.

[wolframbane]

I have the full version of SirMuddy's list, as well as the full Conan, Kull, Red Sonja and Solomon Kane Chronologies. If you need a copy, let me know.

[Col_Fury]

Oh of course, I only used that quote to transition into my mention of SirMuddy's chronology.

And I have a good feeling the new stuff will be regarded as "canon", would definitely not be surprised to have some form of crossover.
And in my opinion, those clarifications of canon (as I shall refer to them as), do not necessarily make the old Conan stuff canon.

But yeah, should be interesting to read the new stuff, what with three ongoings and undoubtedly countless minis.

Re SirMuddy:
Ah, gotcha.

There are a lot more connections than just the two I mentioned. Kull was king of Atlantis before it fell into the ocean, Solomon Kane met Dracula (I think?) and a bunch of other stuff I'm not remembering. Classic Marvel Conan is undoubtedly in Earth-616's past, there's just no way around it.

My feeling is that the new Conan stuff will be as "canon" as the current Marvel Star Wars stuff is. It counts toward itself, if you get what I mean. I remember when Marvel announced they were getting the Star Wars license back everyone was wondering when the first crossover would happen. It's been, what, almost five years and nothing? I dunno, anything's possible, and I don't know anything more than any other regular Joe/Jane out there. BUT! I am looking forward to the new stuff coming out next year as well.

I haven't read ANY Marvel Conan, but I'm slowly filling in my collection and plan to get to it kind-of soon-ish (a 2019 resolution!).

Boy, are you gonna be in for a treat - some of the best comics Marvel released during the 70's, especially the early Barry Smith issues.

I've been meaning to get around to Marvel's Conan for YEARS. Looking forward to it!

I have the full version of SirMuddy's list, as well as the full Conan, Kull, Red Sonja and Solomon Kane Chronologies. If you need a copy, let me know.

Is what the MCP currently has for SOLOMON KANE complete, or are we missing some bits?

But yeah, feel free to post what you have. Just make sure you give credit to whomever when you do.

-edit-

Looking at the current SOLOMON KANE chronology, I just realized that CONAN SAGA had a few original stories.

COSAGA 14/3, 30/3, 50/3 & 69/3 are new. COSAGA 50/3 is already in the MCP.

[vanhornluke]

Don't forget the Conan newspaper strip, too

[wolverine7230]

Don't forget the Conan newspaper strip, too

I was under the impression that this wasn't canon? Especially seeing as the Spider-Man strips aren't, are they?

[vanhornluke]

Has anything official said that? Some of them were reprinted in a Conan Annual or something like that.

[wolverine7230]

Has anything official said that? Some of them were reprinted in a Conan Annual or something like that.

IIRC they contradict some stuff in the definitely canon stuff.

[Col_Fury]

They weren't included in Roy "include everything possible" Thomas' chronology in CONAN SAGA (but they were reprinted in CONAN SAGA).

If Roy couldn't find a way to make them fit...

[vanhornluke]

Fair enough. I've never read them, so I didn't know if they fit or not.

A related question: since Elric of Melnibone appears in two issues of Conan the Barbarian, will he get an MCP chronology that covers those two issues as well as his other Marvel appearances (I think in Epic stuff)?

[wolframbane]

The Conan comics strip basically retold existing Marvel strips, different enough so they probably would not be canon.

I did the Solomon Kane series in full:
http://chronologyproject.com/phpbb2/vie ... f=9&t=8940

[lettsmonster]

COSAGA 14/3, 30/3, 50/3 & 69/3 are new. COSAGA 50/3 is already in the MCP.

Are COSAGA 30/3 and 69/3 new stories? I don't have the Conan Saga issues, but it looks like these might be reprints from SAVSCO 19/2 and KULLC 11, respectively. Can anyone confirm this? Thanks!