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The Uncanny and All-New X-Men Annuals take place between pages of UX3 17.

Amazing X-Men v? #15-19 happens in a day, people are still sad that Wolverine’s dead and features the return of Cain Marko as the Juggernaut. Storm’s angry at recent events, but starts to lighten up at the end. Scarlet Witch makes a guest appearance. March - June

X-Men v3 #23-26 happens in a day or so, and people are still sad that Wolverine’s dead. Gambit appears on vacation. March - June

All-New X-Men #40-41 have the X-Men returning to Earth from the Black Vortex crossover, so there’s that. June - August

Uncanny X-Men v3 #32-33 seem like they happen shortly after AXIS (Havok goes to Cyclops’ place and makes a bunch of comments). Kitty mentions she just came back from space after spending time with Star-Lord (so, after Star-Lord #8). Cyclops reveals he’s a worthless piece of crap and that he’s been picking fights for no reason and his mutant revolution was a bunch of malarkey. Also, he closes his New Xavier School and hands all of his students over to the Jean Grey School (but not the time-displaced X-Men, for no reason given). Happens over two days. Before the Black Vortex crossover. May - June

#34 happens at some later point, Mystique is arrested by S.H.I.E.L.D., and takes a week or so to happen. July

#35 happens at some later point, and likely spans weeks or months. Captain Marvel is back from space (she doesn’t appear & isn’t -BTS, but she’s mentioned). September

Storm v? #9-11 happens over a few days, Storm’s in a pretty good mood and Gambit appears getting used to running the Thieves Guild. May - July

Nightcrawler v? #8-12 probably happens over a few days. Nightcrawler mentions that things seemed to go back to normal quickly after all the crap the X-Men have gone through lately, so likely a few weeks or so after AXIS? Storm seems to be in a decent mood, so after Amazing X-Men #15-19? January - May

Magneto v? #13-15 has Magneto dealing with the aftermath of AXIS. Magneto erases all of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s files on mutants, so likely after UX3 34, where Maria Hill barters with Dazzler about certain S.H.I.E.L.D. mutant files. Or, long enough before that to give S.H.I.E.L.D. time to build their files back up. Happens over a day or three. February - April

#16-17 has Magneto setting up a new mutant refugee camp in Genosha. It’s already been started, so some time after #15. Happens over two days or so. May - June

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Spider-Gwen takes place entirely in an alternate reality, so that's off the list!

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Spider-Man 2099 v2 9-12 has Miguel appearing in the wrong 2099 immediately after the Spider-Verse crossover. When he travels back to 2015, it's December 25. Over in ASM3 15, Spider-Man says they've only been gone for "days," and Liz Osborn makes no comment that Miguel's been missing when he shows up for work, so he must also have only been gone for days, as well. Meaning, Spider-Verse happens right before Christmas.

Also, ANXF 18-20 needs to happen after Spider-Man v2 2099 #12.

Here’s where we’re at (S.H.I.E.L.D. #1's in now, but not #2-on yet):

AXIS (Thanksgiving)
CA&MA 4
SUPIM 2 (8-20), 3-4 (DD’s still a lawyer)
Thor v? 1-4
NO5 25 (1-27) (shortly after AXIS, lady Thor & robot arm Thor appear)
AWORLD 17 (1-19)
SUPIM 5
Magneto v? 13-15
ASM3 7-8
FF5 11 (15-20), 12-14 & FF 642-645 (1-31), FF 645-FB, FF 645/2, FF 645/3, FF 645 (32-35)
All-New Invaders 14-15
Punisher v? 10-18
ASM @ v? 1
Nightcrawler v? 8-12
FF 645/4
S.H.I.E.L.D. v3 1
Hulk v? 5 (start)
SUPIM 6-9
Amazing X-Men v? 15-19
Black Widow v? 12-18
UA2 1-5
S-H v? #12 (19-20)
X-Men v3 23-26
Deathlok v? 1-10
ROCRAC2 5
Hulk v? 5 (end)-6
Angela: Asgard’s Assassin 1-6
Storm v? 9-11
Guardians Team-Up #1-2 (lady Thor appears) (classic suit Spider-Woman)
Iron Fist: Living Weapon 12 (7-22)
Legendary Star-Lord #5-8
UX3 32-33
ASM3 9-15 / SM2099V2 5-8 / SCARSPIS 1-3 SUPSM 32-33 / SVERSE 1-2 / SVERSETU 1-3 / S-W 5 1-4 (1-10)
SM2099v2 9-12 (Christmas)
CM9 9-13 (Christmas)
GOTG @2 1
ANXF 18-20
Guardians Team-Up 9 (New Year’s Eve)
Silver Surfer v? 8-11
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl 1-4 (start of school semester)
SM&X 1-3 (start of school semester)
ANX 37
DPOOL 5 41-43, 44 (1-19)
Hulk Annual v? 1
ROCRAC2 6
Hulk v? 7-10
Ant-Man 1
Thor @ v? 1
A5 34.1
A5 34.2 (classic suit Spider-Woman w/Avengers)
S-W5 4 (11-20) (Spider-Woman quits Avengers)
ROCRAC2 7-9
ANCA: FH 1-4
CA&MA 5-7, 8 (1-7)
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl 5-8
Loki 10-13 (1-14)
GOTG3 21-23 (Star-Lord elected president)
Cyclops v? #5-11
NO5 25 (28-30), #26-27, Annual
Black Vortex Alpha & Omega, GOTG3 24-25, Legendary Star-Lord #9-11, ANX 38-39, Guardians Team-Up #3, NO5 28, Cyclops v? #12, CM9 14 (3rd week of January)
ANX 40-41
Ant-Man 2
Magneto v? 16-17
Guardians Team-Up 4
Howard the Duck v? 2/2
ANCA 1-6
UX3 34
(Valentine’s Day)
Guardians Team-Up 5
ASM SPEC / INH SPEC / ANCA SPEC
Howard the Duck v? 3/2
S-W5 5-8 (Spider-Woman in new suit)
Ant-Man 3-5
DPOOL5 45/2
Howard the Duck v? 1-5
INH 13
MSM3 13-15
INH 14-15 & @ 1 (after MSM3 15)
DPOOL5 45/3
Guardians Team-Up 6
Howard the Duck v? 4/2
CM9 15 (Captain Marvel done with GotG) (new suit Spider-Woman)
Guardians Team-Up 7 (Gamora still with team)
Legendary Star-Lord 12
DPOOL5 45/4
GOTG3 26-27
Thor v? 5-8
Hulk v? 11-16
Moon Knight v? 7-12
DPOOL5 45/5
DD6 18 (14:3-21) (after any lawyer appearances)
SM&X 4-6 (1-28)
DPOOL5 45/6
CA&MA 8 (8)
Ultron Forever: A / NA / UA
SM&X 6 (29-30)
DPOOL5 45/7
Moon Knight v? 13-17 (April)
NO5 29-31 (May)
UX3 35
ROCRAC2 10-11
CA&MA 8 (9-11)
Silver Surfer v? 12
Guardians Team-Up 8
All-New Ghost Rider 11-12
Guardians Team-Up 10
CA&MA 8 (12)
AWORLD 17 (20), 18-20
A5 35 / NA3 25 (1-15)
NA3 24 / NA3 25 (16-20)
AWORLD 21
A5 37 (1-20)
A5 36
A5 37 (21-24)
NA3 26
CA&MA 8 (13-14:2)
A5 38 (& -FBs)
NA3 27
A5 39-41, 43-FB / NA3 28-30 / CA&MA 8 (14:3-20)
NA3 31-33
DPOOL5 45 (1-25)
FCBD 2015: Secret Wars #0
A5 42-FBs
A5 42-44 (1-16)
Ant-Man: Last Days 1 (1-19)
UINH 0 (1-6)
A5 44 (17-26)
CA&MA 9 (1-3)
UINH 0 (7-22)
S-W5 9-10
BW v? 19-20
Secret Wars #0-1 / CA&MA 9 (4-20) / Ant-Man: Last Days #1 (20) / Magneto v? 18-21 / Loki #13 (15-20), 14-16 / MSM3 16-19 / Punisher v? #19-20 / Silk #7 / Guardians 3000 1-8 / DPOOL 5 45 (26-30)
SECRET WARS
Loki #17 / Silver Surfer v? #13-16


Stuff that needs to get filled in:

All-New Hawkeye #1-5
Amazing Spider-Man v3 #16-18, 16.1-20.1
Groot #1-?
S.H.I.E.L.D. v3 #2-? (there are also some 50th Anniversary one-shots; before SW? after?)
Silk #1-6
Wolverines #1-20

Almost there…
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ASM3 16-18 happen over two days, and Parker Industries is destroyed. If there are any appearances of Parker Industries, those comics have to happen before ASM3 16. Also, Parker Industries is working on a prison system (which Ghost destroys) in competition with Alchemax, so this is after SM2099v2 8-12.

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Silk #1 starts at some point after the Spider-Verse crossover. Silk's been working at her news job for a while by this point. Spider-Man and Black Cat appear.

Silk #2-6 starts at some point after #1. Black Cat, Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four appear. Ends with Silk deciding to take Mr. Fantastic's advice to see a psychiatrist. Also, Silk breaks her hand here, and it's "kind of" healed next issue. The last panel shows the Ultimate Earth in the sky, but I'm treating that like a "next issue" advertisement. Probably lasts a week or so, give or take.

Silk #7 has Silk seeing a psychiatrist for the first time (so probably a week or so since last issue; you need to make appointments for that kind of thing), and happens during the final incursion.
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What about Silk #3-6?
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Oops! That should have said "#2-6" instead of just "#2." All fixed now! :)
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ASM3 16.1 (1-7:4) happens shortly after the Spider-Verse crossover.

ASM3 16.1 (7:5-10) happens eight days later. Parker Industries is still around, so this is before ASM3 16-18.

ASM3 16.1 (11-20) probably happens a week after that.

ASM3 17.1 is a “few nights” after ASM3 16.1 (11-20), and lasts a little under 24 hours.

ASM3 18.1 happens a day or so after last issue, and lasts a little over eight hours. Parker Industries is still around, so we’re still before ASM3 16-18.

ASM3 19.1 picks up from the end of ASM3 18.1 and continues into the next day. An editor’s note says this is still before ASM3 16-18.

ASM3 20.1 starts a day or so after ASM3 29.1, and happens in less than a day. An editor’s note says this is still before ASM3 16-18.

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All-New Hawkeye #1-5 happens over a day or two. No references to other stories, it can pretty much happen anywhere.

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Groot #1-5 (#6 isn't out yet) are one string of events (Rocket Raccoon and Groot go on a road trip through space, but get separated). Silver Surfer and Dawn Greenwood appear in #3, so this looks like it's all before Secret Wars. Also, Guardians Team-Up #8 is referenced as in the past.

Groot #1 was published the month after ROCRAC2 11, so this is likely after that. Also, after Silver Surfer v? #12 (Groot #1 was published the same month as SS? 12; SS? 12 ends a months-long story). As mentioned, this is after Guardians Team-Up #8, and MAYBE after Guardians Team-Up #10.

Solicitations for #6 says Rocket Raccoon and Groot are reunited, but that already happened in #5. #5's next issue blurb says Rocket and Groot finally make it to Earth in #6, so I guess we'll see what happens there in a little over three weeks.
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Clive_Reston wrote:S.H.I.E.L.D. (2014) has to be pre-Secret Wars, at least for its first few issues.

S.H.I.E.L.D. #1 has a scene involving Iron Man (in an armor that's kind of but not exactly his Superior armor), Hyperion, Captain America (Sam Wilson), Blue Marvel, the Hulk (who has no speaking lines) and Nova. "The new Thor" is referred to.

S.H.I.E.L.D. #2 happens in one day; S.H.I.E.L.D. is still fighting A.I.M., so presumably it's before Sunspot's buyout.

S.H.I.E.L.D. #3 happens in one day; Spider-Man is around (there's no reference to any other stories involving him), and Dr. Strange is "off-world."

S.H.I.E.L.D. #4 happens in one day and involves the Invisible Woman.

S.H.I.E.L.D. #5 happens in two days, "a few weeks" after #3; Dr. Strange is present again. (It ends on a cliffhanger; haven't read #6 yet, though.)
#6 picks up from #5’s cliffhanger, and features the Fantastic Four, Iron Man, the X-Men and a bunch of others. Captain Marvel is on Earth, and the new Thor appears. Happens in a day, the same day as the end of #5.

#7 happens on its own, takes at least four days to happen, and Quake is back on Earth following her appearances over in Bucky Barnes: the Winter Soldier. Also, she’s apparently back on good terms with S.H.I.E.L.D. again, despite how her tenure as Director ended (she’s a field agent now).

#8 happens on its own, and probably takes three days or so to happen. Mockingbird is back with S.H.I.E.L.D. again, despite her going missing back in Secret Avengers v2 (hey, the same volume where Quake went missing). That’s not addressed (and neither was Quake’s reinstatement), but Mockingbird did show up in a group back in Cap #25 where Sam Wilson was promoted to being the new Captain America right before AXIS, so I guess that was settled off-panel a while ago.

#9 happens on its own, and happens in a day. Coulson meets Leonardo da Vinci (and learns about the ancient Order of the Shield, but doesn’t seem to believe it). Also a bunch of flashbacks, which are awesome, but not pertinent to what we’re looking at here.

#9’s second story happens in a day and features the return of the Dum Dum Dugan LMD and Jasper Sitwell as a zombie. They’re both with the new Howling Commandos squad now (Jasper already was; Maria Hill convinces Dugan to join).

Agent Carter: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 happens in the early days of S.H.I.E.L.D. The story says “1966,” but Nick Fury is Director so this is after Tony Stark became Iron Man. So, in the modern day but around comics published in 1966, then. Also, that would mean Peggy Carter running around here, palling around with Sif and jumping off of Helicarriers, is easily in her 80s. I guess she got some of the Infinity Formula, also?

Quake: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 has an editorial note that says it takes place before Avengers v4 #20. Have to look at that.

Calvary: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 happens in a day, and Melinda May trains new S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. No references to anything else.

Fury: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 happens in a day, and has Nick Fury Jr. travelling back in time where he meets his dad. Again, the comic says “1965,” but Nick Fury Sr. is in charge of S.H.I.E.L.D., so this is just the modern day around comics published in 1965. Also, a young (child-age) Barack Obama appears in the past. Oops. Also, happens during the Watts riots. I guess that’s a sliding timescale thing, like Vietnam. Also, features the ONLY appearance I’ve seen so far of Nick Fury Sr. as the Unseen since Original Sin ended.

Mockingbird: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 happens in a day. No references to anything else.

Mockingbird: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1’s second story happens in a night. Black Widow’s on a mission, and meanwhile, a homeless teenage girl who met Black Widow once saves her friend from getting raped at a party. The story is called “Red Widow” and there’s a blurb on the cover advertising this story. I’ve read the story twice, and I have NO IDEA what the term “Red Widow” has to do with anything. Is “Red Widow” supposed to be the teenage girl (probably)?

#10 features Howard the Duck, and happens in a day. Published the month after his series ended, so most likely after that.

#11’s out, but I don’t have it yet. Howard Chaykin’s on art (yay!) and previews tell me it features Dominic Fortune (yay again!).

#12’s coming out later this month. Solicitations tell me it features the Scarlet Centurian and time travel shenanigans. It’s really looking like all of this series is before Secret Wars, but I guess we’ll see for sure when the last issue comes out in a few weeks.
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Col_Fury wrote:Agent Carter: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 happens in the early days of S.H.I.E.L.D. The story says “1966,” but Nick Fury is Director so this is after Tony Stark became Iron Man. So, in the modern day but around comics published in 1966, then. Also, that would mean Peggy Carter running around here, palling around with Sif and jumping off of Helicarriers, is easily in her 80s. I guess she got some of the Infinity Formula, also?

[...]

Fury: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary #1 happens in a day, and has Nick Fury Jr. travelling back in time where he meets his dad. Again, the comic says “1965,” but Nick Fury Sr. is in charge of S.H.I.E.L.D., so this is just the modern day around comics published in 1965. Also, a young (child-age) Barack Obama appears in the past. Oops. Also, happens during the Watts riots. I guess that’s a sliding timescale thing, like Vietnam. Also, features the ONLY appearance I’ve seen so far of Nick Fury Sr. as the Unseen since Original Sin ended.
...at what point do we give up and admit that there's been a serious retcon such that Fury (Sr) was S.H.I.E.L.D. Director much, much earlier than he originally was? Possibly involving him rejoining when he originally joined?
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SHIELD # 7 also takes place after the new Ghost Rider series and involves Mr. Hyde. His exploits in Los Angeles are mentioned.
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Good eye, Jason!

* * *

Wolverines #1 *SEEMS* like it happens shortly after all of the Death of Wolverine stuff (because the main characters are dying, and are in a rush to find a cure), but can’t. Sabretooth was his normal self during DoW, but got zapped by a magic good guy spell during AXIS, and is still “nice” here. That means we’re looking at a gap that at least encompasses the AXIS crossover, but how big is that gap? Uncanny Avengers v2 #1-5 implies that Sabretooth has been in Avengers custody since AXIS, so this should probably start after that ends.

#1-2 happen in a day; Mr. Sinister appears (these issues were published before SM&X 5-6, where he also appears).

#3-7 happens in a day, shortly after #2, probably the next day or maybe the day after that. Punisher appears (published four months before Howard the Duck #3, where he also appears). Mr. Sinister’s still around (still published before SM&X 5-6). Storm, Colossus and Nightcrawler appear (since Colossus is on a mission with Storm, probably after Amazing X-Men #19). Mystique taunts X-23 by changing into Angel (the time displaced one); it’s non-cosmic look. Does this mean we’re still before the Black Vortex crossover? Or does Mystique just not know about Angel’s upgrade? #7 ends on a cliffhanger.

#8-12 starts on the same day as #7. How long does this last? Fang appears, accuses everyone of killing his pal Wolverine, then teleports individual members away to have an adventure while interrogating them. Daken, goes to Jotunheim, Sabretooth goes to space, etc. But, every time Fang returns, the rest of the group are still hanging around together (and I don’t think it’s likely that they leave and have their own adventures, then return just in time for Fang to reappear), so not that much time passes between each adventure. Not that they’re staying in one place; Mystique is flying them around the planet trying to stay away from Fang, but he always finds them. Meanwhile, another character is globetrotting (from Madripoor to Spain, etc.). So, I dunno, a week? Deadpool appears in #12 (which leads into next issue), and reveals he’s been -BTS in some of the previous issues (he hired the globetrotter) (#12-13 were published the same months as DPOOL5 44-45).

#13 has Deadpool trying to be the new Wolverine and failing miserably. Lots of guest stars, including Spider-Woman in her classic suit, still with the Avengers. Who knows how long this lasts. A week? A month? Also, it’s mentioned that Wolverine’s been dead for “months” in this issue.

#14-20 starts with Daken, and he’s grown his hair out like Wolverine. Daken’s lost his healing factor, so in theory his hair takes as long to grow as a normal person. So… we’re six months after #12, where most of his head was still shaved? Later issues show his hair to not be quite so long, so maybe a month or two. In theory, that means the Black Vortex crossover happened somewhere between #12 and this issue. X-23 mentions that Daken hasn’t gotten out of bed for “weeks,” but that doesn’t mean it’s only been weeks since #12. Mystique mentions she’s tired of wasting time and has to get back to her plan (which she got from Destiny), which is time-sensitive. Mr. Sinister’s back (published after SM&X 6), Sabretooth and X-23 get their healing powers taken away and when the story ends, they’re both stabbed and bleeding on the floor in Mr. Sinister’s lab. The End!

Now, obviously, Sabretooth didn’t die #20; he’s in Cap & the Mighty Avengers #9 an hour before the world ends, and appears to be just fine (who knows if he has his healing factor or not, though). If Sabretooth made it out, I’m sure X-23 did as well. How? I don’t know; the comics didn’t bother to tell us.

#1-13 look like they happen sometime after UA2 5 (for Sabretooth) and before S-W5 4 (11-20) (for Spider-Woman), and take a week or two to happen. #14-20 happen sometime later (after the Black Vortex crossover, because X-23 still has her healing factor there; in theory that matters), and take a day or three to happen. Mystique is arrested by S.H.I.E.L.D. in UX3 34 (published between #16-17); should this happen between #13-14 in addition to the Black Vortex crossover?
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OK, for putting a date on the final incursion, would I be right to say around late July?

Because AXIS, which is 'Thanksgiving' shows Iron Man/Cap fighting together, not against each other, but after Tony goes bad, you'd assume that Cap would choose this point to declare war on the Illuminati. Eight months after this would be July, and as you've said before, All-New Ghost Rider #11-12 probably happen in July, and are likely to be quite close to the incursion.

Is my logic correct, or have I just messed up?

Also: Uncanny X-Men #600 finally came out today, yay!
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Pretty much, yeah.

Loki: Agent of Asgard #13 is the only comic I've seen that has an in-story reference to "eight months later" when he gets pushed forward in time. Given that he has to appear other comics before Loki #10-13 (like Angela, etc.), I have Loki #13 in early/mid-January. So, eight months after that is early/mid-September. All-New Ghost Rider #11-12 would still be in July, and it's looking like S.H.I.E.L.D. v3 #7-12 happen after that (thanks to Mr. Hyde) and before Secret Wars.

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Hold on. I'm seeing Mr. Hyde in ANGR 10, but not 11-12. However, I do see Mr. Hyde in UX3 35. SHIELD3 7 should probably happen after that, since Hyde is arrested by S.H.I.E.L.D.in SHIELD3 7.
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Here’s where we’re at. Take a look; if anything sticks out, appears odd, can’t work, whatever, I want to know about it! :)

AXIS (Thanksgiving)
CA&MA 4
SUPIM 2 (8-20), 3-4 (DD’s still a lawyer)
Thor v? 1-4
NO5 25 (1-27) (shortly after AXIS, lady Thor & robot arm Thor appear)
AWORLD 17 (1-19)
Cyclops v? 1-4
SUPIM 5
Magneto v? 13-15
ASM3 7-8
FF5 11 (15-20), 12-14 & FF 642-645 (1-31), FF 645-FB, FF 645/2, FF 645/3, FF 645 (32-35)
All-New Invaders 14-15
Punisher v? 10-18
ASM @ v? 1
Nightcrawler v? 8-12
FF 645/4
SHIELD3 1
Hulk v? 5 (start)
SUPIM 6-9
Amazing X-Men v? 15-19
Black Widow v? 12-18
UA2 1-5
S-H v? #12 (19-20)
X-Men v3 23-26
Deathlok v? 1-10
ROCRAC2 5
Hulk v? 5 (end)-6
Angela: Asgard’s Assassin 1-6
SILK 1
Thor @ v? 1
Wolverines 1-13
Storm v? 9-11
Guardians Team-Up #1-2 (lady Thor appears) (classic suit Spider-Woman)
Iron Fist: Living Weapon 12 (7-22)
Legendary Star-Lord #5-8
UX3 32-33
ASM3 9-15 / SM2099V2 5-8 / SCARSPIS 1-3 SUPSM 32-33 / SVERSE 1-2 / SVERSETU 1-3 / S-W 5 1-4 (1-10)
SM2099v2 9-12 (Christmas)
CM9 9-13 (Christmas)
GOTG @2 1
ANXF 18-20
SHIELD3 2
Guardians Team-Up 9 (New Year’s Eve)
Silver Surfer v? 8-11
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl 1-4 (start of school semester)
SM&X 1-3 (start of school semester)
ANX 37
SHIELD3 3
ASM3 16.1 (1-7:4)
DPOOL 5 41-43, 44 (1-19)
Hulk Annual v? 1
ROCRAC2 6
Hulk v? 7-10
Ant-Man 1
ASM3 16.1 (7:5-10)
A5 34.1
A5 34.2 (classic suit Spider-Woman w/Avengers)
S-W5 4 (11-20) (Spider-Woman quits Avengers)
ROCRAC2 7-9
ANCA: FH 1-4
CA&MA 5-7, 8 (1-7)
Unbeatable Squirrel Girl 5-8
Loki 10-13 (1-14)
SHIELD3 4
ASM3 16.1 (11-20), 17.1-20.1
GOTG3 21-23 (Star-Lord elected president)
Cyclops v? #5-11
NO5 25 (28-30), #26-27, Annual
Black Vortex Alpha & Omega, GOTG3 24-25, Legendary Star-Lord #9-11, ANX 38-39, Guardians Team-Up #3, NO5 28, Cyclops v? #12, CM9 14 (3rd week of January)
ANX 40-41
Ant-Man 2
Magneto v? 16-17
SHIELD3 5-6
Guardians Team-Up 4
Howard the Duck v? 2/2
ANCA 1-6
UX3 34
(Valentine’s Day)
Guardians Team-Up 5
ASM SPEC / INH SPEC / ANCA SPEC
Howard the Duck v? 3/2
S-W5 5-8 (Spider-Woman in new suit)
Ant-Man 3-5
DPOOL5 45/2
Howard the Duck v? 1-5
INH 13
MSM3 13-15
INH 14 & @ 1 (after MSM3 15)
DPOOL5 45/3
Guardians Team-Up 6
Howard the Duck v? 4/2
CM9 15 (Captain Marvel done with GotG) (new suit Spider-Woman)
Guardians Team-Up 7 (Gamora still with team)
Legendary Star-Lord 12
DPOOL5 45/4
GOTG3 26-27
Thor v? 5-8
Hulk v? 11-16
Moon Knight v? 7-12
DPOOL5 45/5
DD6 18 (14:3-21) (after any lawyer appearances)
SM&X 4-6 (1-28)
DPOOL5 45/6
CA&MA 8 (8)
Ultron Forever: A / NA / UA
SM&X 6 (29-30)
DPOOL5 45/7
Moon Knight v? 13-17 (April)
ASM3 16-18
All-New Hawkeye 1-5
NO5 29-31 (May)
UX3 35
ROCRAC2 10-11
SHIELD3 7
CA&MA 8 (9-11)
SHIELD3 8
Wolverines 14-20
SHIELD3 9
Silver Surfer v? 12
SHIELD3 9/2
Guardians Team-Up 8
Calvary: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary 1
Fury: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary 1
Mockingbird: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary 1
Mockingbird: S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary 1/2
All-New Ghost Rider 11-12 (July?)
Guardians Team-Up 10
UX 600
SHIELD3 10
GROOT 1-6
SHIELD3 11-12
NA3 26-FB
S-W5 9-10
A5 37-FB / AWORLD 18-FB (Terrax)
CA&MA 8 (12)
AWORLD 17 (20), 18-20
A5 35 / NA3 25 (1-15)
NA3 24 / NA3 25 (16-20)
AWORLD 21
A5 37 (1-20)
A5 36
A5 37 (21-24)
NA3 26
CA&MA 8 (13-14:2)
A5 38 (& -FBs)
NA3 27
A5 39-41, 43-FB / NA3 28-30 / CA&MA 8 (14:3-20)
NA3 31-33
SILK 2-6
DPOOL5 45 (1-25)
FCBD 2015: Secret Wars #0
A5 42-FBs
A5 42-44 (1-16)
Ant-Man: Last Days 1 (1-19)
UINH 0 (1-6)
A5 44 (17-26)
CA&MA 9 (1-3)
UINH 0 (7-22)
BW v? 19-20
Secret Wars #0-1 / CA&MA 9 (4-20) / Ant-Man: Last Days #1 (20) / Magneto v? 18-21 / Loki #13 (15-20), 14-16 / MSM3 16-19 / Punisher v? #19-20 / Silk #7 / Guardians 3000 1-8 / DPOOL 5 45 (26-30)
SECRET WARS
Loki #17 / Silver Surfer v? #13-15

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Re: AXIS to SECRET WARS

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Don't forget about Uncanny X-Men #600!
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Re: AXIS to SECRET WARS

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UX 600's out, and it's basically a bunch of conversations. Happens in a day.

This has to happen after UX3 35 (no surprise there), because the New Xavier School kids are at the Jean Grey School. Also, I see Sabretooth appears, but as mentioned before, he also appears during the final incursion, so I don't think that matters too much. Probably after Wolverines #20.

This should still probably happen before Secret Wars, but not too close to it. Cyclops still needs time to get his hands on a Phoenix Egg, or whatever, before Secret Wars happens.

Also, S.H.I.E.L.D. v3 #11 happens over a few days. No references to other comics.

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Re: AXIS to SECRET WARS

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I finally read the Avengers: Rage of Ultron OGN.

As said earlier, Hank Pym is sent on a mission shortly after AXIS and doesn't return until the world's ending. That means any Pym appearances have to be before he's sent away (meaning, shortly after AXIS) or after Secret Wars (outside of A5/NA3, of course). Since Pym really can't make any appearances after Rage of Ultron at all, Rage of Ultron has to be after Secret Wars.

I'll have to go over the list again to make sure there aren't any stray Pym appearances in there.

AIM appears in Rage of Ultron, and it vaguely seems like they're bad guys. Nothing's definitively stated, though. Sunspot bought AIM before Secret Wars, and it looks like he's still running AIM after Secret Wars. Maybe old habits die hard?

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Also, it turns out that Corsair and teen Cyclops appear in AWORLD 17, so all of Cyclops v? #1-11 have to happen after that and before the Black Vortex crossover.
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