I decided to review Namor's chrono to see if the changes to Hulk impacted Namor. They did not. But Sub-Mariner's series had mistakes of its own, mostly due to the current listing wildly ignoring publication dates and internal scripts.
Notes on chrono:
SUB 38 Jun 71 abdicates
SUB 39 Jul 71 Florida, NY looking for Llyra, starts quest for father
DD 77 NY
SUB 40 Aug 71 NY, leaves for New England
SUB 41 Sep 71 upstate NY, on his way to New England part 1
SUB 42 Oct 71 part 2
SUB 43 Nov 71 looking for his father in New England
NA:ILLUM (1 - 10)-FB
NA:ILLUM2 1
M/FEA 1 Dec 71 (4:2 - 16) New England, prince no more, in search of his father
LASTDEF 5 (10 - 11:2)-FB = M/FEA 1 (15-16-17:1)
M/FEA 1 (17:1)
LASTDEF 5 (11:3)-FB = M/FEA 1 (17:1)
M/FEA 1 (17:2)
LASTDEF 5 (11:4 - 11:6)-FB = M/FEA 1 (17:3)
M/FEA 1 (17:3 - 17:8)
LASTDEF 5 (12)-FB = M/FEA 1 (18)
M/FEA 1 (18 - 19)
SUB 44 Dec 71 part 1
SUB 45 Jan 72 part 2
SUB 46 Feb 72 (1 - 21:7) part 3 Capt. McKenzie dies
IH2 160-FB = 22:6 unnecessary
SUB 46 (21:8)
SUB 47 Mar 72 amnesiac Chicago Doom Modok part 1
SUB 48 Apr 72 New Orleans Doom Modok part 2
SUB 49 May 72 Doom Modok part 3
SUB 50 Jun 72 still amnesiac New Orleans Namorita 1st
SUB 51 Jul 72 memory recovered decides to make a home
SUB 52 Aug 72 home is completed vs Sunfire part 1
SUB 53 Sep 72 vs Sunfire part 2
SUB 54 Oct 72 vs Sunfire part 3
SUB 55 Nov 72 leaves Nita with Betty Dean
SUB 56 Dec 72 failed return to Atlantis
SUB 57 Jan 73 Nita NY
SUB 58 Feb 73 plot loosely follows from #56, becomes guardian of Tamara
SUB 59 Mar 73 Tamara Thor NY
M/FEA 2 Mar 72 New England (one year out of place)
M/FEA 3 Jun 72 Atlantic, more than a month goes by, Cape Canaveral
DEF 2-FB "My cousin Namorita and I were building my new south polar home" cf SUB 51-52
DEF 1 Aug 72 (eight months out of place)
IM 54 Jan 73 "near his Antarctic home" then goes north
DEF 2 Oct 72 south pole, two months since DEF 1
DEF 3 Dec 72
DEF 4 Feb 73 (1 - 18:3)
A 157 (16:2)-FB
DEF 4 (18:4 - 20)
A 117-FB
DEF 5 Apr 73 in NY with Nita and Betty Dean
DEF 6 Jun 73
SUB 60 Apr 73 follows from #59, NY invasion, 19:1 UN address, 19:2 back in Atlantis, gets crowned
SUB 61 May 73 celebration, possible break between panels 4:2 and 4:3, Betty turned into amphibian
SUB 62 Jun 73 part 2
break
SUB 63 Jul vs Dr Hydro
DEF 7 Aug 73 Prince
DEF 8 Sep 73
DEF 8/2
A 116
A 117
DEF 10 (1 - 14) Nov 73
A 157 (8)-FB
DEF 10 (15 - 19)
A 118
DEF 11 Dec 73
M/TU 14 Oct 73
GSDEF 1 Jul 74
SUB 64 Aug 73 part 1
SUB 65 Sep 73 part 2
SUB 66 Oct 73 part 3
SUB 67 Nov 73 part 4 gets new costume
Chronology in his own series:
Sub-Mariner's events are the following: abdicates in #38, tries to settle in NY in #39, finds out his father may be alive, moves north to New England #40-42, searches for his father in New England in #43, his father is kidnapped and killed #44-46, Namor gets amnesiac #47-50 (Chicago to New Orleans), meets Namorita in New Orleans #50, goes to Antarctic #50, recovers memory #50-51, decides to build a home #51, completes its building #52, meets elderly Betty Dean #52-54 (Pacific), leaves Nita with her #55 (goes to Antarctic), meets Atlanteans #56, visits Nita in NY #57, becomes guardian of the alien Tamara #58, Tamara captured #59 and brought to UN, Tamara freed by Atlantean invasion of NY #60, resumes throne #60, airliner passengers incl. Betty kidnapped and turned to amphibians #61-62. From this point Namor has responsibilities for Atlanteans, Nita, Tamara and the amphibians and leaves Defenders in #11.
Guest appearances:
In M/FEA 1 Namor is in New England looking for his father (so between #39 and #44). However in M/FEA 2 he's still in New England so this is also before #44. In M/FEA 3 he's not amnesiac so this is either before #44 or after #50. Namor appears at the beginning and end of M/FEA 3 more than a month apart. In DEF 1 he falls from the sky. A flashback in DEF 2 explains "My cousin Namorita and I were building my new south polar home" which places DEF 1 squarely between SUB 51 & 52. IM 54 refers to his Antarctic home so this is later than #51. In DEF 2 Strange & Namor have been looking for the Surfer for two months. DEF 2-4 follow without break. In Def 5 Namor is in NY with Nita and Betty Dean. In Def 7 Vashti warns him of an invasion by Attuma. In DEF 5-8 he seems to stay in NY without break.
Olshevsky's chrono:
SUB 38-39, DD 77, SUB 40-43, M/FEA 1, SUB 44-50 (1-5:2), M/FEA 2, SUB 50 (5:3-21)-51, M/FEA 3, DEF 1, SUB 52-55, DEF 2-4, SUB 56, IM 54, SUB 57-59, DEF 5-6, SUB 60-63, DEF 7-11, MTU 14, SUB 64-69, MTIO 2, GSSVTU 1, SUB 70-71, DEF 13-14, FF 147-149, SUB 72, GSDEF 3
Except for a few points (M/FEA 2-3, breaking up SUB 59 & 60) it is well thought out. Note that I first worked out the chronology and then checked Olshevsky's to find we agreed on most of it.
The additions for M/FEA 1 are only pertinent for Omegatron who has added scenes with a time-traveling Kyle Richmond. Adding this dialogue between Omegatron and Richmond to Strange, Namor or Hulk's chronologies is more confusing than anything else as nothing more happened concerning the three Defenders from the past, they're not aware of any of it and do not interact in any way with the present Omegatron.
With DEF 1 (Aug 72) between SUB 51 (Jul 72) & 52 (Aug 72) per internal clues and publication dates, M/FEA 2 (Mar 72) & 3 (Jun 72) need to be moved earlier. M/FEA 2 also occurs before SUB 44 as noted. M/FEA 1 (New England) > ... > M/FEA 2 (New England) > ... > SUB 44 (finds father in New England)
The inclusion of the flashback in IH2 160 has two mistakes. It cannot take place between 21:7 and 21:8 because page 21 has only six panels (maybe it was indexed from a shortened reprint?). It actually takes place on page 22 panels 5 and 6 but is unnecessary as it's exactly the same scene as these two panels, only from Tiger Shark's viewpoint.
In M/FEA 3 (Jun 72) Namor does not suffer from amnesia, he appears first in the Atlantic saving astronauts "in the name of that humanity which I do seek," this seems to point that his quest for his human father is still ongoing. Then more than a month later he appears in Cape Canaveral called by Dr. Strange. He must not have been too far away. In SUB 50 (Jun 72) he departs New Orleans with the Gulf Stream. The Gulf Stream goes to the southern tip of Florida and then turns north, up Florida's east coast. So we can guess Namor received the call from Dr Strange while he was reaching southern Florida and stayed in the stream going north to reach Cape Canaveral.
M/FEA 3 (1 - 7) (seeks humanity) > SUB 44-50 (1 - 5:3) father dies, loses memory then returns to Atlantis by Gulf Stream) > M/FEA 3 (14 - 23) (Florida)
I distributed M/FEA 1-3 in such a way that there are issues in-between since the series was a quarterly. M/FEA 1 (Strange just out of retirement) > [DODS:A-FB] (first Illuminati meeting, Strange already out of retirement) > NA:ILLUM (1 - 10)-FB > NA:ILLUM2 1 > M/FEA 2 > SUB 43 > M/FEA 3 (1 - 7)
As noted DEF 2-FB and DEF 1 take place between SUB 51 & 52. SUB 51 (starts building home) > DEF 2-FB (building home, kidnapped) > DEF 1 (freed) > SUB 52 (completes home)
DEF 2 takes place two months later and starts in the polar south. I agree with Olshevsky. DEF 1 > SUB 52-55 > DEF 2-4
IM 54 (Jan 73) Namor is "near his Antarctic home" which he was in SUB 56 (Dec 72) and sent north to fight Iron Man. At the beginning of SUB 57 (Jan 73) he's still north. This is also where Olshevky had it and matches the publication dates. SUB 56 (Antarctic home) > IM 54 (moves north) > SUB 57 (meets Nita and Betty)
In DEF 5 Namor is found by Valkyrie with Namorita & Betty Dean Prentiss in NY. In his own series Namor went there in SUB 57. SUB 57 (with Nita & Betty) > DEF 5-6 (still with Nita & Betty)
In addition there is no reason to separate SUB 59 & 60 with other concerns. Once Tamara is captured, his only concern (he's her guardian) is to make her free. All those appearances placed in-between were not making any sense, whether in terms of geography, internal logic or publication date. SUB 59 > SUB 60
In DEF 7, Lord Vashti sends an Atlantean to warn Namor that Attuma is going to attack Atlantic City. In DEF 8 Namor says, he is "Lord of Atlantis." Namor gets involved with Atlanteans in SUB 56 and with regent Vashti in SUB 58. It is most likely Namor has resumed the throne by DEF 7-8, which he did in SUB 60. In his series Namor is first appointed guardian of Tamara in 58, resumes the throne in 60 and then right away gets saddled with the humans turned amphibians, which he gives as a reason not to get involved with Defenders in DEF 14. Having Namor hang around Defenders when he's got responsibilities with Tamara and later with Atlanteans and still later with the amphibians from Hydrobase is difficult. From the storyline we have two likely explanations: One, he must return to New York to inform authorities about what happened to the kidnapped plane passengers (from SUB 61) and to take care of Betty Dean's affairs; Two, he is looking for Tiger Shark to exact vengeance for his father's death. SUB 60-63 (resumes crown, plane hijacked & passengers turned into amphibians) > DEF 7-8 (Lord of Atlantis)
A 157 (8)-FB is a repeat of a scene from DEF 10, Enchantress turning Black Knight into stone with the only added information that his spirit left his body at this point. So this is only relevant to Black Knight's chronology.
In DEF 11, Dec 73, Namor says, "Too much of my time has been diverted from Atlantis." His next appearance is currently M/TU 14, Oct 73, where he says, "I have important business in your city tonight." It seems much better that Namor came to NY first for M/TU 14, then visited the Defenders, getting sidetracked from Atlantis for DEF 7-11. This change only affects Spider-Man's chronology, placing his Oct 73 appearance in M/TU 14 before his Dec 73 appearance in A 118 and provides a reason for Namor to be in NY in DEF 7.
M/TU 14 (in NYC to track Tiger Shark) > DEF 7 (visits Defenders, stops Attuma, sidetracked with Avengers conflict) -11 (needs to return to Atlantis) > GSDEF 1 (in Atlantis) > SUB 64- (sequence leading to new costume)
Spider-Man is the only character affected by this change.
SUB 42 goes to New England > M/FEA 1 in New England, Strange just returned to active status > DODS:A Illuminati first meeting > NA:ILLUM (1 - 10)-FB Strange already active > NA:ILLUM2 1 > M/FEA 2 in New England > SUB 43 New England > M/FEA 3 (1 - 7) Atlantic > SUB 44-46 New England, father dies > SUB 47-50 (1 - 5:3) New Orleans, Gulf stream > M/FEA 3 (14 - 23) Cape Canaveral, Florida > SUB 50 (5:4 - 21) goes to south pole > SUB 51 starts building a home > DEF 2-FB building home > DEF 1 > SUB 52 just finished his home > SUB 53-55 > DEF 2-4 > A 117-FB > SUB 56 Atlantis > IM 54 moves north > SUB 57 NYC with Betty & Nita > DEF 5-6 NYC with Nita & Betty > SUB 58 Atlantis > SUB 59 Tamara captured and brought to NYC > SUB 60 invasion of NYC, Tamara freed, resumes throne > SUB 61-63 Atlantis > M/TU 14 arrives in NYC > DEF 7 already in NYC > DEF 8 > DEF 8/2 > A 116-117 > DEF 10 > A 118 > DEF 11 needs to return to Atlantis > GSDEF 1 Atlantis > SUB 64 Atlantis
Corrections:
SPIDER-MAN/PETER PARKER
M/TU 14 move here
A 118
M/TU 14 move from here
SUB-MARINER/NAMOR
SUB 39
DD 77
SUB 40
SUB 41
SUB 42
*M/FEA 1 move to here
*[DODS:A-FB] add here
*NA:ILLUM (1 - 10)-FB move to here
*NA:ILLUM2 1 move to here
*M/FEA 2 move to here
SUB 43
*M/FEA 3 (1 - 7) split and move to here
NA:ILLUM (1 - 10)-FB
NA:ILLUM2 1
M/FEA 1 Dec 71 (4:2 - 16) New England, prince no more, in search of his father
LASTDEF 5 (10 - 11:2)-FB (= M/FEA 15, 16-6 - 17:1 "Hulk, Namor, Halt!")
M/FEA 1 (17:1) ("Hulk, Namor, Halt!")
LASTDEF 5 (11:3)-FB = M/FEA 1 (17:1) "You must not attack the Omegatron"
M/FEA 1 (17:2)
LASTDEF 5 (11:4 - 11:6)-FB (Hulk & Namor attacking Strange = M/FEA 17:3)
M/FEA 1 (17:3 - 17:8)
LASTDEF 5 (12)-FB = (Hulk & Namor fighting each other = M/FEA 18:1)
M/FEA 1 (18 - 19)
SUB 44
SUB 45
*SUB 46 (1 - 21:7) delete range
*IH2 160-FB = 22:6 delete
*SUB 46 (21:8) delete
SUB 47
SUB 48
SUB 49
*SUB 50 (1 - 5:3) split here
*M/FEA 3 (14 - 23) split and add here
*SUB 50 (5:4 - 21) split here
SUB 51
*DEF 2-FB move to here
*DEF 1 move to here
SUB 52
SUB 53
SUB 54
SUB 55
*DEF 2 move here
*DEF 3 move here
*DEF 4 move here
*A 117-FB move here
SUB 56
*IM 54 move here
SUB 57
*DEF 5 move here
*DEF 6 move here
SUB 58
SUB 59
M/FEA 2 Mar 72 New England
M/FEA 3 Jun 72 more than a month apart
DEF 2-FB "My cousin Namorita and I were building my new south polar home"
DEF 1 Aug 72
IM 54 Jan 73 "near his Antarctic home"
DEF 2 Oct 72 two months since DEF 1
DEF 3 Dec 72
DEF 4 Feb 73 (1 - 18:3)
A 157 (16:2)-FB
DEF 4 (18:4 - 20)
A 117-FB
DEF 5 Apr 73 in NY with Nita and Betty Dean
DEF 6 Jun 73
SUB 60
SUB 61
SUB 62
SUB 63
*M/TU 14 move to here
DEF 7
DEF 8
DEF 8/2
A 116
A 117
*DEF 10 (1 - 14) delete range
*A 157 (8)-FB delete
*DEF 10 (15 - 19)
A 118
DEF 11 Dec 73
*M/TU 14 Oct 73 move from here
GSDEF 1
SUB 64
SUB 65
SUB 66
SUB 67
SUB 68
...
DEF 10 (1 - 14)
A 157 (8)-FB delete
DEF 10 (15 - 19)
NAMORITA/NAMORITA "NITA" PRENTISS
SUB 51
[DEF 2-FB] narration only, for reference only, do not add
SUB 52
...
SUB 57
DEF 5 move here
SUB 59
DEF 5 move from here
SUB 61
DOCTOR STRANGE
M/FEA 1 (2 - 4:1)
LASTDEF 5 (16:3)-FB DELETE
M/FEA 1 (4:2 - 16)
LASTDEF 5 (10 - 11:2)-FB DELETE (= M/FEA 16-5 - 17:1 "Hulk, Namor, Halt!")
M/FEA 1 (17:1) ("Hulk, Namor, Halt!")
LASTDEF 5 (11:3 - 11:6)-FB DELETE (= M/FEA 16-5 - 17:1 "You must not attack the Omegatron", Hulk & Namor attacking Strange = M/FEA 17:3)
M/FEA 1 (17:3 - 17:8)
LASTDEF 5 (12)-FB DELETE (Hulk & Namor fighting each other = M/FEA 18:1)
M/FEA 1 (18 - 19)
...
DEF 10 (1 - 14) 242
A 157 (8)-FB delete
DEF 10 (15 - 19)
HULK/ROBERT BRUCE BANNER
M/FEA 1 (4:2 - 16)
LASTDEF 5 (10 - 11:2)-FB DELETE (= M/FEA 16-5 - 17:1 "Hulk, Namor, Halt!")
M/FEA 1 (17:1) ("Hulk, Namor, Halt!")
LASTDEF 5 (11:3)-FB DELETE (= M/FEA 16-5 - 17:1 "You must not attack the Omegatron")
M/FEA 1 (17:2)
LASTDEF 5 (11:4 - 11:6)-FB DELETE (Hulk & Namor attacking Strange = M/FEA 17:3)
M/FEA 1 (17:3 - 17:8)
LASTDEF 5 (12)-FB DELETE (Hulk & Namor fighting each other = M/FEA 18:1)
M/FEA 1 (18 - 19)
VALKYRIE/BRUNNHILDE/SISTER BARBARA DENTON NORRISS/SIAN BOWEN
DEF 10 (1 - 14)
A 157 (8)-FB delete
DEF 10 (15 - 19)
YANDROTH
M/FEA 1-FB
M/FEA 1 (2 - 4) --> (2 - 4:1)
LASTDEF 5 (16:3)-FB delete = M/FEA 4:2
M/FEA 1 (4:2 - 16)
Sub-Mariner in Defenders 1971-1973
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