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Wolverine: Black, White & Blood #1-4

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:31 pm
by Leoparis
Chronological clues

#1
The Beast Within Them by Duggan & Kubert
During BWS' Weapon X

I Shall Be a Wolf by Rosenberg & Cassara
Wolverine in 1980s brown costume
Nick Fury
Hydra
phone box
X-Mas shopping in Budapest

Cabin Fever by Declan Shalvey
Wolverine in X-jacket (Morrison era?)

#2
Unfinished Business by Ayala & Land
yellow & blue costume
sent by Charles Xavier to Oregon to investigate a researcher's claim to "safely eliminate the x-gene"
Sabretooth sent by ? (Mr Sinister would be my guess)

Seeing Red by Ahmed & Walker
brown costume
Arcade

Do We Die Today by Claremont & Larocca
as Patch in Madripoor
Kate Pryde as Cat
Tyger Tiger

#3
32 Warriors & a Broken Heart by Ridley & Fornes
brown costume
Silver Samurai
Mariko Yashida (before Wolverine 57)
Amiko Kobayashi

Burn by Cates & Bachalo
"A few years back"
yellow & blue costume
Gambit is mentioned
Juggernaut
time-traveling Cosmic Ghost Rider

Red Planet Blues by MacKay & Saiz
"in my old X-Force gray-and-blacks"
Magik
mentions the origin bombs (from Hickman's Avengers)
The reliance on Magik for teleportation & the comment for mutants to have a place of their own means this is pre-Krakoa and possibly pre-Utopia.

#4
The Art of Loss by Thompson & Randolph
Japan
"Editor's Note: This story takes place shortly after Uncanny X-Men #173"
Wolverine
Storm
Mystique

Reave What You Sow by Brisson & Kirk
Outback
"This story takes place after Uncanny X-Men #229"
Wolverine
Reavers

Sticks and Stones by DeKnight & Siqueira
Savage Land
Wolverine in yellow & blue costume
Sauron
Garokk
So either after he resumes wearing his blue and yellow costume in 1990 or before X 139.
Wolverine mentions a vacation, he's very familiar with Sauron so after X 113-116 and possibly after Marvel Fanfare 3-4 (but by then he had his brown costume). Garokk's appearance in UX 149 refers to X 116 and makes it difficult (not impossible) to insert this story. There is a break in X 129 where could be placed the Wolverine vacationing in Australia story in the 75th Anniversary special. The vacation could extend from Australia into the Savage Land.
I'm not familiar enough with the post 1990 chronology of Wolverine, Sauron and Garokk to make a proposal for this later period.

Re: Wolverine: Black, White & Blood #1-4

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:48 pm
by Midnighter
Leoparis wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:31 pm Red Planet Blues by MacKay & Saiz
"in my old X-Force gray-and-blacks"
Magik
mentions the origin bombs (from Hickman's Avengers)
The reliance on Magik for teleportation & the comment for mutants to have a place of their own means this is pre-Krakoa and possibly pre-Utopia.
It is impossible that it is after Hickman's Avengers (which start after AVX) and before Utopia (which is sunk during AVX). Plus Magik has the costume she starts wearing with Cyclops' Uncanny X-Men after AVX.

However, it is not easy to find a time when Wolverine is alive and collaborating with Magik (while she is wearing that costume). I think the only option really is just before Mars is colonized by Krakoa in House Of X 1 (3:4).

Indeed, it may have been this Wolverine mission to Mars that gave rise to the idea of using the planet to grow krakoani flowers.

Re: Wolverine: Black, White & Blood #1-4

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2022 1:38 pm
by Leoparis
In W:BW&B 1, Logan mentions he was made to fight "wolves, bears and some men who were like me", so after M/CP 77, 79 and WX2 24-25. I would put W3 14 here because the humans in WX2 24-25 were innocents and we need "men like Logan" in that sequence.

In W:BW&B 1/2 Fury and Wolverine fight Hydra in an Eastern European country, which they do also in Wolverine/Nick Fury: Scorpio Rising, except Wolverine's costume is wrong (yellow & blue version with the epaulets). So either insert it there (between pages 27 & 28) or find a better spot.

In W:BW&B 1/3 Wolverine sports a jacket from the Morrison era and says "been to the Savage Land more times this year than I've been back up north" During the jacket era he's only once in the Savage Land in XU 48.

List of Wolverine apperances in Savage Land leading to and during the jacket era:
Wolverine: The Jungle Adventure 1 Feb 1990
Uncanny X-Men Vol 1 274-275 Mar-Apr 1991
Wolverine 69-71 May-Jul 1993
Badrock/Wolverine Jun 1996
X-Men Unlimited Vol 1 48 Jul 2003 Wolverine


For W:BW&B 3 I tried to place the story with other stories involving Mariko and Silver Samurai, such as W:DB and W2 55-57 but that did not work out. Then I looked for places where Wolverine is already in Japan and found W2 33.


WOLVERINE/"LOGAN"/JAMES HOWLETT
M/CP 79 (1 - 6:3) fight vs bear, professor wants a test vs humans
WX2 24-FB walking into Roanoke
WX2 25-FB killing population at Roanoke
**W3 14-FB move here
**W:BW&B 1/1 add here
M/CP 79 (6:4 - 8:4) Weapon X escapes,
M/CP 80 (1 - 3:2) enters service tunnels, zone 2
W2 49 (2 - 4)-FB
M/CP 80 (3:3 - 5:3) in zone three "Weapon X has escaped"
W2 48 (11 - 12:2)-FB in zone three "Weapon X has escaped"
M/CP 80 (5:4 - 6:1) closing in on professor's lab
W2 48 (12:3 - 12:6)-FB crawling
M/CP 80 (6:2 - 7:2) attacks professor "Move it!" "Zone Three and C-Block" "Aaahhee! Help Me!"
W2 48 (13)-FB "Move it!" "Zone Three and C-Block" "Aaaah! Help Meee!"
M/CP 80 (7:3 - 8:5)
M/CP 81
M/CP 82
M/CP 83
M/CP 84 (1 - 19:5)
**W3 14-FB move from here
X-23 1
W2 166 (5 - 8)-FB
W2 175-FB killing guard (W2 175 17:4 = W2 166 7:2; W2 175 17:5 = W2 166 8:4)
W2 166 (9)-FB
M/CP 84 (20 - 24) running in snow
...
W2 33 (1 - 21)
**W:BW&B 3 add here
W2 33 (22)
...
XU 48
**W:BW&B 1/3
W3 1
...
WOTR 6
**W:BW&B 3/3 add here
HOX 1

CORNELIUS, DR. ABRAHAM B.
M/CP 84-FB
M/CP 79 (1 - 6:3)
WX2 25-FB
**W:BW&B 1 add here
M/CP 79 (6:4 - 8:4)

HINES, CAROL
M/CP 84-FB
*M/CP 79 --> M/CP 79 (1 - 6:3)
**W:BW&B 1 add
*M/CP 79 (6:4 - 8) add here
M/CP 80 (1 - 3:2)-BTS

WENDIGO/PAUL CARTIER
**W:BW&B 1 add here
MU 9/3-FB
M/CP 80 (1 - 3:2)-BTS



KOBAYASHI, AMIKO
W '96/2-FB
{UX 181 (1 - 15)}
W2 150-FB
UX 181 (16 - 22)
KPRY&W 5
KPRY&W 6
**W:BW&B 3 add here
W2 82

SILVER SAMURAI/KENYUCHIO HARADA
W:DB
**W:BW&B 3 add here
W2 150 (8:4)-FB

YASHIDA, MARIKO
NW 20
**W:BW&B 3 add here
W2 55

MAGIK/ILLYANA RASPUTINA
WOTR:UX 3
**W:BW&B 3/3 add here
NM4 1