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Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:34 am
by StrayLamb
Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy
Marvel Feature 1/3
Marvel Feature 1 [Birth of the Defenders]
Captain America 139 (5:4 - 20)
Captain America 140-143
Iron Man 650/3 [Eddie March has had enough time to heal & grow a beard]
Amazing Adventures 5-10
Avengers 92-93
Avengers 94 (1 - 6)
Astonishing Tales 8/3 [Dr Doom] [Mid-Summer’s Eve 1971]
Marvel Team-Up 2
Sub-Mariner 44-46
Fantastic Four 117 (1 - 5:5)
Sub-Mariner 47-49
Sub-Mariner 50 (1 - 12)
Avengers 94 (7 - 23)
Avengers 95-96
Marvels 4 (1 - 2)
Avengers 97
Fantastic Four 117 (5:6 - 11:2)
Fantastic Four 117 (13 - 20)
Fantastic Four 118 (1 - 14)
Fantastic Four 118/2
Fantastic Four 118 (15)
Sub-Mariner 50 (13 - 21)
Sub-Mariner 51
Death of Doctor Strange: Avengers 1 (1 - 3)-FB
New Avengers: Illuminati Special 1 (1 - 10)
New Avengers: Illuminati II 1
New Avengers 40 (1 - 10)-FB
Marvel: Shadows & Light 1/3
Amazing Adventures 11 (14:1 - 14:4)
Uncanny Origins 6 (18:5)
Amazing Adventures 11 (14:5 - 17:3)
Marvels 4 (3 - 4:5)
Daredevil 83 (14 - 21)
Iron Man 44/2
Iron Man 41-45
Marvels 4 (5:1)
Avengers 99-FB
Iron Man 46-47
Avengers 98-100
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 1 (21 - 23)
Savage Tales 1/5 [Ka-Zar]
Amazing Adventures 11 (11:3 - 13)
Amazing Spider-Man 603-FB
Sentry/Spider-Man 1 (20:3 - 21:2)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 108 (8:2 - 9)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 108 (10:2 - 10:5)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 109 (12:4 - 12:5)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 108 (11:2 - 11:3)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 109 (12:6 - 13:2)-FB
Daredevil 84-85 [Last warm evening in October]
Marvel Feature 2 [Halloween 1971]
Incredible Hulk 142-144
Fantastic Four 119 [November]
Avengers 126 (10:2 - 10:3)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 100-102 [Early Winter]
Marvel Team-Up 3 (1 - 3)
Amazing Spider-Man 103-104
Astonishing Tales 18 (7:2 - 7:5)-FB
Amazing Spider-Man 105 (1 - 9:4)
Tomb of Dracula 7-9 [Late December]
Marvel Spotlight 2 [intro Werewolf by Night]
Tomb of Dracula 10
Astonishing Tales 9
Astonishing Tales 8
Astonishing Tales 10-13
Amazing Spider-Man 843 (11:1-11:4)-FB
Marvel Team-Up 8 (9:2 - 11:2)-FB [Early February]
Amazing Adventures 11 (8:2 - 9)
Uncanny Origins 6 (18:3 - 18:4)
Amazing Adventures 11 (10 - 11:2)
Iron Man 48
Iron Man 59 (6 - 8:3)-FB
Captain America: Sentinel of Liberty II 8-9
Captain America 144-148
Amazing Spider-Man 164 (2:5)-FB
Marvels 4 (5:2 - 5:3)
Daredevil 86 [Winter]
Monsters Unleashed 5 [Man-Thing]
Tomb of Dracula 11
Marvel Spotlight 3 [Werewolf by Night]
Marvel Team-Up 3 (4 - 21)
Incredible Hulk 145-147
Fantastic Four 120-125
Marvels 4 (5:4 - 10)
Thor 182-205
Daredevil 87
Incredible Hulk 148-151
Sgt Fury 100
Cat 1 (5:5 - 6:3)-FB [Spring]
All-New Hawkeye II 6 (1 - 3, 6 - 8, 12 - 13, 19:1, 19:3)
Daredevil 88
Incredible Hulk 152
Incredible Hulk 153 (2 - 11:3)
Avengers 101 (11:2 - 14)
Incredible Hulk 153 (11:4 - 14)
Incredible Hulk 153 (13:4 - 14)
Avengers 101 (1 - 11:1)
Avengers 101 (15:1 - 21)
Incredible Hulk 153 (15 - 21)
Incredible Hulk 154-155
Incredible Hulk 156 (1 - 9)
Daredevil 89
Amazing Adventures 11 (1 - 7:2)
Amazing Adventures 11 (17:4 - 21)
Amazing Adventures 12-13
Amazing Adventures 14 (1 - 12)
Marvel Team-Up 4
Amazing Adventures 14 (13 - 20)
Uncanny Origins 6 (20:6 - 21:1)
Amazing Adventures 15 (1 - 4)
Avengers 144 (11:7 - 12:7)
Uncanny Origins 6 (21:2)
Amazing Adventures 15 (5 - 20)
Avengers 144 (12:8 - 12:9)
Incredible Hulk 156 (10 - 20)
Captain America 151 (8:5 - 10)-FB
Captain America 149-152
Captain America 155 (18:1 - 18:5)-FB
Captain America 153 (1 - 11:5) [Summer]
Marvel Feature 3 (1 - 7)
Adventure Into Fear 10 [Man-Thing]
Cat 1 (6:4 - 8:5)-FB [Midsummer]
Adventure Into Fear 11 [Man-Thing] [Summer]
Avengers 102-103
Avengers 104 ~ Fantastic Four 131 (4:3 - 7:3)-FB
Marvels 4 (16 - 17)
Fantastic Four 131 (7:4 - 7:9)-FB
Captain America 600/4 (4:5)-FB
Captain America 153 (11:6 - 20) [Summer]
Captain America 154-156
Cat 1 (8:6 - 9:3)-FB
Cat 1 (12:7 - 19:3)-FB
Cat 1-2
Cat 3 (4)-FB
Marvel Feature 3 (8 - 13)
Fantastic Four 131 (12:6 - 13:5)-FB
Fantastic Four 126-128 [Late July]
Incredible Hulk 241 (11:5 - 11:6)-FB
Fantastic Four 129-132
Incredible Hulk 241 (11:7 - 12:3)-FB
Iron Man 49-51
Captain Marvel 22-23
Iron Man 52 (1-5)
Iron Man 52 (12:2 - 12:3)-FB
Incredible Hulk 241 (12:4 - 12:6)-FB
Iron Man Annual 4/2 [Late Summer]
Cat 3 (5-6)-FB
Cat 3
Marvel Feature 3 (14 - 23)
Marvel Feature 4-7 [Ant-Man] [August 1972]
Astonishing Tales 15 [Ka-Zar the Savage] [Late Summer]
Adventure Into Fear 12-13 [Man-Thing] [Late Summer]
Astonishing Tales 16 [Ka-Zar the Savage]
Amazing Spider-Man 105 (9:5 - 22)
Amazing Spider-Man 106
Amazing Spider-Man 107 (1 - 20)
Spider-Man Family II 8/2
Marvel Team-Up 5-6 [Late Summer]
Avengers 105 (1 - 19:6)
Marvel Team-Up 7
Daredevil 90-94
Avengers 105 (19:7 - 20) [Late Summer]
Night Nurse 1 [Late Summer]
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 2-5
Night Nurse 2 [Autumn]
Marvel Spotlight 4 [Werewolf by Night]
Werewolf by Night 1
Werewolf by Night 2 (1 - 8)
Defenders 2-FB
Defenders 1
New Defenders 143 (14:2 - 18:1)-FB
Werewolf by Night 2 (9 - 20)
Tomb of Dracula 12-16
Amazing Adventures 16 (1 - 6) [Halloween 1972]
Thor 206 [Halloween 1972]
Thor 207 (1 - 3:4) [Halloween 1972]
Amazing Adventures 16 (7 - 9:1) [Halloween 1972]
Thor 207 (3:5 - 20) [Halloween 1972]
Thor 236-FB [Halloween 1972]
Avengers 106 [Halloween 1972]
Amazing Adventures 16 (9:2 - 17) [Halloween 1972]
Amazing Adventures 16 (18) ~ Thor 207 (21:1 - 21:4) [Halloween 1972]
Avengers 115/2 (1)-FB [Halloween 1972]
Amazing Adventures 16 (19-20)
Thor 207 (21:5 - 21:6)
Thor 208 (1 - 5) [November 1]
Avengers 107-108
Vision III 7 (1 - 4)
Avengers 109 (1 - 7:3) [November 3]
Captain America 179-FB
Avengers 109 (7:4 - 9:3) [November 4]
Thor 208 (6 - 20)
Avengers 109 (9:4 - 9:5)
Amazing Spider-Man 107 (21)
Amazing Spider-Man 108-118 [November]
Bizarre Adventures 28/1 [Elektra]
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 6 [November]
Thor 209 [November]
Amazing Spider-Man 125 (8:6 - 11:1)-FB
Monsters Unleashed 9/3 [Wendigo]
Sub-Mariner 52-55
Marvel Premiere 1-2 [Adam Warlock]
Warlock 1-2
Incredible Hulk 157-160
Defenders 2-4 [Two months after DEF 1]
Sub-Mariner 56
Iron Man 52 (6 - 20)
Iron Man 53-54
Marvel Feature 8-10 [Ant-Man]
Warlock 3-4
Warlock 5 (4:5 - 6:1)-FB
Sub-Mariner 57
Defenders 5-6
Incredible Hulk 161-162
Werewolf by Night 3-4
Captain America 157-159
Sub-Mariner 58-59
Sub-Mariner 60 (1 - 3)
Thor 210-211
Thor 217 (15:1 - 15:5)-FB
Thor 212-213
Thor 217 (15:6 - 16:1)-FB
Thor 216 (15:5 - 16:6)-FB
Thor 217 (9:3 - 9:6)-FB
Thor 214-227
Thor 228 (1 - 18:4)
Uncanny Origins 4 (1 - 19)
Thor 228 (18:5 - 18:7)
Avengers 109 (10 - 20)
Iron Man 57 (10:3 - 14:1)-FB [Autumn]
Iron Man 58 (6:2 - 7)-FB
Daredevil 95-96 [Autumn]
Cat 4 (7:5 - 7:8)-FB
Avengers 121 (9:8)-FB
Avengers 114 (8:3)-FB
Giant-Size Avengers 4 (13:4)-FB
Avengers 121 (11:1 - 11:2)-FB
Giant-Size Avengers 4 (13:5)-FB
Avengers 121 (11:3)-FB
Avengers 129-FB
X-Men Unlimited II 10/2
Marvel Spotlight 5-7 [intro Johnny Blaze] [Early December]
Marvel Spotlight 8 (1-10)
Night Nurse 3 [Christmas Eve 1972]
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 7 [Christmas Eve 1972]
Incredible Hulk 241 (12:7 - 12:8)-FB
Fantastic Four 133 [New Year’s Eve to January 4]
Elektra: Assassin 1 (22 - 27)-FB
Avengers 112 (1 - 2)
Daredevil and the Black Widow 102 (8:4 - 9:3)-FB [Winter]
Daredevil and the Black Widow 97-98
Avengers 111 (13:1 - 13:5) ~ Captain America 174 (13:3 - 13:4)-FB
Captain America 174 (13:5 - 14:3)-FB
Avengers 110
Sub-Mariner 60 (4 - 20)
Sub-Mariner 61 (1 - 4:2)
Daredevil and the Black Widow 99
Avengers 111 (1 - 19)
Defenders 15 (10:1 - 10:3)-FB
Captain America 173 (6:3)-FB
Avengers 111 (20)
Avengers 112 (3 - 20)
Daredevil and the Black Widow 100-102 [Winter]
Captain America 160-162 [Winter]
Shanna the She-Devil 1-5
Supernatural Thrillers 5 [The Living Mummy] [Early 1973]
Chamber of Chills 3/3
Marvel Team-Up 8 (4:6 - 6:2)
Night Nurse 4 [Winter]
Marvel Team-Up 8 (1 - 4:5)
Marvel Team-Up 8 (6:3 - 9:1) [Two years (actually one year) after last Winter Olympics][Early February]
Marvel Team-Up 8 (11:3 - 20)
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 8-9
Code of Honor 1 (1 - 8)
Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 10-11
Chamber of Chills 4/3
Marvel Team-Up 9-11 [February]
Thanos Rising 4 (10 - 20)-FB
Thanos Rising 5 (1)-FB
Avengers Annual 7 (9:5)-FB
Daredevil 107 (13:5 - 13:6)-FB
Daredevil 105 (14:1 - 14:7)-FB
Avengers: Celestial Quest 5 (13:2)-FB
Eternals: Thanos Rises 1 (15:1 - 15:2)-FB
Thanos Rising 5 (2 - 17)-FB
Daredevil 107 (14:1)-FB
AXE: Starfox 1 (6)-FB
Thanos: A God Up There Listening 1-6 [Flashbacks]
Werewolf by Night 5-8 [March]
Sub-Mariner 61 (4:3 - 20) [Semester Break]
Sub-Mariner 62-63
Astonishing Tales 17 [Ka-Zar]
Astonishing Tales 18 (1 - 20:1) [Ka-Zar]
Astonishing Tales 20 (7:5 - 7:6)-FB
Astonishing Tales 18 (20:2) [Ka-Zar]
Astonishing Tales 20 (7:7 - 7:8)-FB
Cat 4 [Spring]
Avengers 113
Amazing Spider-Man 119-121 [Death of Gwen Stacy] [Early April]

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:09 am
by StrayLamb
This chronology has been extensively revised to bring it into line with MCP's individual character chronologies, while matching internal dates where possible. The exception to the MCP's chronology is the placement of Cat 4 after M/TU 8, which seems to fit better. Cat 1 & 2take place during the winter, Cat 3 takes place during the summer, M/TU 8 is placed for Spider-Man just before FF 133, which is New Year's Eve, and Cat 4 takes place the following Spring. There doesn't seem to be any reason not to place M/TU 8 between Cat 3 & 4. Also M/TU 8 and Cat 3 were published the same month, so there's that as well. Further revisions may well occur over time.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 8:37 pm
by StrayLamb
There has been a lot of discussion on the boards recently regarding the Hulk & early Defenders placements. For now, i've moved Marvel Feature 1 to just before the Kree-Skrull War, but this whole area is subject to change.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:44 am
by Troutlaw
Night Nurse should be added.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 3:20 am
by StrayLamb
Done, thanks!

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:27 am
by StrayLamb
Updates have been made to the list in Bold. These include bringing early Werewolf By Night and Cat issues down from earlier lists, and incorporating some changes to Sub-Mariner and Defenders listings, courtesy of Leoparis.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2022 7:26 pm
by StrayLamb
Updates in BOLD from recent forum posts.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:48 am
by robfj
I have a question about the position of Iron Man #39.

This chronology has IM#39(10-20) & IM#40 between the beginning and A#92-93, which by definition puts it between A#91 (in the previous chronology) and A#92.

However Goliath (Clint Barton)'s chronology has IM#39 between A#88 and A#90.

For the other relevant chars Captain America, Falcon, Iron Man and Thor IM#39 just lies between A#88 and A#93 so the question is irrelevant.

The relevant Official Indexes support Goliath's positioning, going all the way back to #5 of the original Marvel Avengers Index. That includes a comment on #88 which says that after the heroes are teleported back to a NY subway station at the end of #88 Iron Man leaves the others and goes to Stark Industries while the others head to Avengers Mansion. The action then picks up in IM#39 p20-27 (several hours later according to the Index comment) where he flies (back) from SI to the Mansion and is attacked by White Dragon's forces. The 4 other heroes (are still together and) help him.

The choice of this position for IM#39 seems completely based on the fact that Cap, Falcon, Goliath and Thor are seen together, and it is just those 4 plus IM who have been off with Hulk in the Pacific in A#88. Black Panther left the team in an A#88 fb. And Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch and Vision stayed behind, and went off chasing Captain Marvel to Florida while the others were away as seen in an A#89 fb.

IM#39 was published in the same month as A#89, but it makes no mention of A#88-89 or why Cap, Falcon, Goliath and Thor are together without any other Avengers. And specifically it only has IM flying away from SI to the Mansion without saying that he's only recently left the Avengers and flown *to* SI. However I expect that the choice of guest stars was a conscious editorial decision based on the events in the Avengers issues, and the link up wasn't seamless as is often the case in these situations.

Should we move IM#39(10-20) & IM#40 backwards into BIRTH OF FRANKLIN RICHARDS TO BIRTH OF THE DEFENDERS to between A#88 and A#89, or more specifically between Hulk #140 and A#89(1-5)?

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:11 am
by Beifica
There are two entries for X-Men Unlimited v2 10/2 on the list.

The first one should be removed, as this story can only occur after the Amazing Adventures 11-16 story.

Thank you

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:28 pm
by StrayLamb
robfj wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 5:48 amShould we move IM#39(10-20) & IM#40 backwards into BIRTH OF FRANKLIN RICHARDS TO BIRTH OF THE DEFENDERS to between A#88 and A#89, or more specifically between Hulk #140 and A#89(1-5)?
Works for me. Thanks robfj.
Beifica wrote: Mon Sep 05, 2022 7:11 am There are two entries for X-Men Unlimited v2 10/2 on the list. The first one should be removed, as this story can only occur after the Amazing Adventures 11-16 story.
Thanks Beifica. Updates applied.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2023 6:51 am
by Troutlaw
Chamber of Chills 3/3 and 4/3 are missing.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2023 7:54 pm
by StrayLamb
Added into the Winter of 1973, thanks!

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:43 am
by StrayLamb
Updates applied in BOLD.

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 2:10 pm
by whatcomesnext?
In Hulk 152, Matt Murdock makes a reference to being on the lookout for the Purple Man who resurfaced in DD 88. Should DD 86-88 come before Hulk 152-153 like it does in DD's timeline? And if so, would that effect the placement of DD 89-94?

Re: Chronology: Birth of the Defenders/Kree-Skrull War to Death of Gwen Stacy

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2023 6:27 pm
by StrayLamb
Yep, you're right. I've moved DD 86-89. Thanks!