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Real names for redirect entries & misc. related fixes

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Right now, 154/412 "See" links on the A-Z pages have CODENAME/REAL NAME, while the rest just have codename. As Fury might say, let's fix that! (Well, at least where possible)...

But first, other fixes that camge up
  • ADAPTOID → ADAPTOID/"YELENA BELOVA" (including quotation marks, also do the same with the BLACK WIDOW IV IMPOSTER entry it goes to)
  • AGENT -> link doesn't actually GO anywhere, RICOCHET RITA entry has been removed (why?). I suppose change to AGENT/RITA WAYWORD ¶ See Spiral ?
  • ASSASSIN → For some reason, the Mr. Kline link tries to go to the R page, where there's nothing for it to attach to. I presume this should go to http://www.chronologyproject.com/altern ... E_MR_71778 (Although starting the page collapsed is a problem for this), in which case it should be ASSASSIN/MK-9 | EARTH-71778.
  • BLUE MARVEL → Change link to See Marvel Boy VI, add /"BOB GRAYSON" (including quotes) to both - although I would suggest reversing that, and making BLUE MARVEL the main entry and MARVEL BOY VI the "See...".
  • BOWMAN → Link to l.php#LANCELOT doesn't go anywhere. Is this LANCELOT, SIR II (from DHKF)?
  • BRITANNIA → Add /TESSA to both BRITANNIA and SAGE II
  • CHAOS KING → CHAOS KING/AMATSU-MIKABOSHI and fix See link to go to a.php#AMATSU-MIKABOSHI (not a.php#AMATSU-MIABOSHI)
  • DECIBEL → Fix See link to go to r.php#RIOT_II (not r.php#RIOT2)
  • EBON FLAME → This says "See Black Widow", but links to BLACK WIDOW III (i.e., Natasha). If this is where it's meant to go, change to EBON FLAME/"NATASHA ROMANOFF" ¶ See Black Widow III
  • EXECUTIONER VII → EXECUTIONER VII/FERON (...shouldn't he be Feron II, BTW? I need to check those Excalibur issues some time, but isn't there a Feron in the Necrom flashbacks?)
  • FENRIS II → FENRIS II/ANDREA STRUCKER & ANDREAS STRUCKER, his see link should be to STRUCKER, ANDREAS not SWORDSMAN III.
  • GHOST II → GHOST II/ZHENG ZU, See FU MANCHU shouldn't be capitalised.
  • GOLDEN WOMAN → Which one is this, GWENNY LOU SABUKI or BETTY ROSS? Either way, add name and fix link to go to g.php#GOLDEN_GIRL or g.php#GOLDEN_GIRL_II (not g.php#GOLDENGIRL)
  • GREEN HOOD → GREEN HOOD/PETER PARKER, fix link to go to spidey.php (not s.php#SPIDER, which is a GA character)
  • KATU II → KATU II/KATU KATH, Change to "See Katu Kath", link to k.php#KATH_KATU (not k.php#KATH)
  • KING COBRA → KING COBRA/KLAUS VORHEES, change to "See Cobra II", link to c.php#COBRA_II (not c.php#COBRA)
  • NEANDERTHAL → NEANDERTHAL/DR. WHITMAN CODY KNAPP, fix link to say "See Manikin" and go to m.php#MANIKIN (rather than Mannikin)
  • NEMESIS V | AGE OF APOCALYPSE, fix link to say "See Holocaust | Age of Apocalypse" and link to h.php#HOLOCAUST_AOAVERSE (not h.php#HOLOCAUST)
  • RED QUEEN II → RED QUEEN II/MARGALI SZARDOS, fix link to go to s.php#SZARDOS_MARGALI (not s.php#MARGALI_SZARDOS)
  • RONIN → RONIN/MAYA LOPEZ, fix link to say "See Echo II" and link to e.php#ECHO_II (not See Echo & e.php#ECHO)
  • SPELLBINDER/DANIELLE MOONSTAR, change from See Moonstar to See Mirage II (wrong time period for a Moonstar link!)
  • SPIDER-SLAYER → SPIDER-SLAYER/ALISTAIR SMYTHE, fix link to say "See Alistair Alphonso Smythe" (not Symth!)
  • SURGE II → SURGE II/ILLARION PAVLOVICH RAMSKOV and fix See link to go to p.php#POWERSURGE (not p.php#PSURGE)
  • TOLLIVER → TOLLIVER/TYLER DAYSPRING | EARTH-4935, change link to say "See Genesis |Earth-4935" and link to alternate1.php#GENESIS_4935 (not See Genesis | Askani Future & g.php#GENESIS_ASKANI_FUTURE)
  • WAR III → WAR III/HULK, change See link from "See Hulk" to "See Hulk (Banner-less)" and link to h.php#HULK_BANNERLESS
  • WEAPON VII → WEAPON VII/FRANK SIMPSON, change See link from "See Nuke II" to "See Nuke" and link to n.php#NUKE (not n.php#NUKE_II)
And now the big list. All presume that the links are correct unless specified otherwise above!:
  • A-BOMB → A-BOMB/RICK JONES
  • AIRSTRIKE → AIRSTRIKE/DIMITRI BUKHARIN
  • AMPHIBION → AMPHIBION/QNAX
  • ANGEL, PAIGE → ANGEL, PAIGE/KAREN PAGE
  • ANIMUS → ANIMUS/DENISE BARRINGER
  • APHRODITE → APHRODITE/APHRODITE PANDMOS
  • APOCALYPSE II → APOCALYPSE II/RITA WAYWORD
  • BLACK QUEEN → BLACK QUEEN/PHOENIX FORCE/"JEAN GREY"
  • BLACK QUEEN II → BLACK QUEEN II/SELENE
  • BLOOD ROSE → BLOOD ROSE/RICHARD FISK
  • BLUEBIRD → BLUEBIRD/SALLY AVRIL
  • BOX III → BOX III/WALTER LANGKOWSKI
  • BROTHER JOSHUA → BROTHER JOSHUA/JOSHUA AYERS
  • BRUTE V → BRUTE V/DR. KEIGI KOJIRO IOSAMA
  • BUCKY V → BUCKY V/LEMAR HOSKINS
  • BURNER → BURNER/BYRON CALLEY
  • CEASEFIRE → CEASEFIRE/PHILLIP STOSS
  • CHANGMING → CHANGMING/"QUAN YAOZU"
  • CORONA II → CORONA II/THENA
  • CRIMSON COWL → CRIMSON COWL/ULTRON
  • DAREDEVIL II → DAREDEVIL II/DANNY RAND
  • DARK PHOENIX → DARK PHOENIX/PHOENIX FORCE/"JEAN GREY"
  • DARKANGEL → DARKANGEL/AZRAEL
  • DAYSPRING, REDD → DAYSPRING, REDD/JEAN GREY SUMMERS
  • DAYSPRING, SLYM → DAYSPRING, SLYM/SCOTT SUMMERS
  • DEATH II → DEATH II/WARREN KENNETH WORTHINGTON III
  • DEATH III → DEATH III/CALIBAN
  • DEATH IV → DEATH IV/LOGAN
  • DEATH V → DEATH V/REMY LEBEAU
  • DEMON DRUID → DEMON DRUID/ULTIMUS
  • DESTROYER V → DESTROYER V/ARTHUR DOUGLAS
  • DOMINO III → DOMINO III/VANESSA CARLYSLE/"NEENA THURMAN" DOMINO II IMPOSTOR/VANESSA CARLYSLE
  • DORREK VIII → DORREK VIII/"TEDDY ALTMAN"
  • EAGLE → EAGLE/ALEJANDRO MONTOYA
  • ELIMINATOR → ELIMINATOR/PHILIP WALLACE STERLING
  • ENCHANTER → ENCHANTER/MAHA YOGI
  • ESPIRITA, LA → ESPIRITA, LA/BONITA JUAREZ
  • FATHER TIME III → FATHER TIME III/CLINT BARTON
  • GEMINI II → GEMINI II/MADISON JEFFRIES
  • GHOST RIDER XIX → GHOST RIDER XIX/CARTER SLADE
  • GOBLIN PRINCESS → GOBLIN PRINCESS/MEGGAN PUCEANU
  • GOLD → GOLD/ZHAO TANG
  • GOLDEN ARCHER → GOLDEN ARCHER/CLINT BARTON
  • GOLIATH IMPOSTER II → GOLIATH IMPOSTER II/DR. HENRY JONATHAN PYM II
  • HADES → HADES/PLUTO
  • HARD → HARD/NITA PRENTISS
  • HAUMEA → HAUMEA/GAEA
  • HAWKEYE III → HAWKEYE III/LESTER
  • HERA II → HERA II/PEPPER POTTS
  • HERCULES IMPOSTER → HERCULES IMPOSTER/SPACE PHANTOM
  • HIGHBROW → HIGHBROW/DR. WHITMAN CODY KNAPP
  • HIPSTER → HIPSTER/FRED MACRAE
  • HOOD II → HOOD II/BARON STRUCKER LMD
  • HOUSE II → HOUSE II/JACK HAMMER
  • HURRICANE II → HURRICANE II/MAKKARI
  • IRON MAN ARMOR → IRON MAN ARMOR/ULTRON MARK 12
  • IRON MONGER → IRON MONGER/OBADIAH STANE
  • IRON PATRIOT → IRON PATRIOT/NORMAN OSBORN
  • JACK FROST II → JACK FROST II/PROF. GREGOR SHAPANKA
  • JACKDAW II → JACKDAW II/HEATHER O'GARA
  • JIGSAW II → JIGSAW II/STUART CLARKE
  • KANG NEBULA → KANG NEBULA/RAVONNA LEXUS RENSLAYER | EARTH-6311
  • KANG PRIME → KANG PRIME/NATHANIEL RICHARDS | EARTH-6311
  • KID JUSTICE → KID JUSTICE/TIMOTHY CARNEY
  • KID VULCAN → KID VULCAN/GABRIEL SUMMERS
  • KNIGHTRESS → KNIGHTRESS/JESSICA JONES
  • KYMAERA → KYMAERA/NITA PRENTISS
  • LADY MANDARIN → LADY MANDARIN/BETSY BRADDOCK
  • LAZAER → LAZAER/AZRAEL
  • LEVIATHAN III → LEVIATHAN III/MARRINA SMALLWOOD
  • LEVIATHAN VII → LEVIATHAN VII/GODZILLA
  • LIFTER → LIFTER/NED LANTHROP
  • LIVING PHARAOH → LIVING PHARAOH/AHMET ABDOL
  • LIVING PLANET → LIVING PLANET/EGO
  • LIVING PLANET II → LIVING PLANET II/AHMET ABDOL
  • LUCIFER II → LUCIFER II/BELASCO
  • LYNX III → LYNX III/CHILI STORM
  • MAD MONK → MAD MONK/MAHA YOGI
  • MADAME MACEVIL → MADAME MACEVIL/HEATHER DOUGLAS
  • MAJOR MERCURY → MAJOR MERCURY/MAKKARI
  • MASTER PLANNER → MASTER PLANNER/DR. OTTO OCTAVIUS
  • MAYA II → MAYA II/MEPHISTO
  • MECHANO-MARAUDER → MECHANO-MARAUDER/FABIAN STANKOWICZ
  • MENTALLO → MENTALLO/PAUL DESTINE
  • MERCURY → MERCURY/HERMES DIAKTOROS
  • MERLIN II → MERLIN II/MAHA YOGI
  • MESMER → MESMER/SERSI
  • MIDNIGHT SUN → MIDNIGHT SUN/M'NAI
  • MORAN, LEENA → MORAN, LEENA/AMORA
  • MR. BLUE → MR. BLUE/BETTY ROSS BANNER
  • MS. MARVEL III → MS. MARVEL III/KARLA SOFEN
  • MUTANT ZERO → MUTANT ZERO/MARY MEZINIS
  • NEBULA II → NEBULA II/RAVONNA LEXUS RENSLAYER | EARTH-6311
  • NO-GIRL → NO-GIRL/MARTHA JOHANSSON
  • NUMBER 1 IV → NUMBER 1 IV/ANTHONY POWER
  • NUMBER 68 → NUMBER 68/GABE JONES
  • NUMBER 69 → NUMBER 69/PEGGY CARTER
  • NUMBER 9 II → NUMBER 9 II/GABE JONES
  • OMEGA III → OMEGA III/ROGER BOCHS
  • OMEGA VI → OMEGA VI/MICHAEL POINTER
  • OMEGA RAY → OMEGA RAY/ASTEROTH
  • OUTBACK II → OUTBACK II/FRED MYERS
  • PATCH → PATCH/LOGAN
  • PEEPER → PEEPER/PETER QMANIUINN
  • PEGASUS → PEGASUS/ARAGORN
  • PENETRAITOR → PENETRAITOR/JACK HAMMER
  • PESTILENCE III → PESTILENCE III/CALIBAN
  • PESTILENCE IV → PESTILENCE IV/LORNA DANE
  • PHOENIX VIII → PHOENIX VIII/CELESTE
  • POSEIDON → POSEIDON/POSEIDON AEGAEUS
  • POWER BROKER II → POWER BROKER II/LOKI LAUFEYSON
  • POWER MASTER → POWER MASTER/JOHN MCIVER
  • PROTOPLASM → PROTOPLASM/DR. WHITMAN CODY KNAPP
  • PUNISHER VII → PUNISHER VII/IAN AMSTERDAM
  • PUNISHER VIII → PUNISHER VIII/SGT. RACHEL ALVES-COLE
  • PURPLE MASK → PURPLE MASK/DENNIS BURTON
  • REVELATION → REVELATION/RAVONNA LEXUS RENSLAYER | EARTH-93091
  • RONIN III → RONIN III/ALEXI ALANOVICH SHOSTAKOV
  • ROSE III → ROSE III/ALFREDO MORELLI
  • SATAN II → SATAN II/DAIMON HELLSTROM
  • SCOTT, JAKE II → SCOTT, JAKE II/LT. VELMAX
  • SCOURGE V → SCOURGE V/PRISCILLA LYONS
  • SCOURGE VI → SCOURGE VI/CAPRICE
  • SCOURGE VII → SCOURGE VII/"MIKE WALKER"
  • SCOURGE VIII → SCOURGE VIII/JACK MONROE
  • SCOURGE IX → SCOURGE IX/FRANK SIMPSON
  • SEPULCHRE → SEPULCHRE/JILLIAN WOODS
  • SHOCKER II → SHOCKER II/RANDALL DARBY
  • SKYBREAKER → SKYBREAKER/AEOLUS
  • SNAKESKIN → SNAKESKIN/BARON WOLFGANG VON STRUCKER
  • SOVEREIGN → SOVEREIGN/IKARIS
  • SPIDER-MAN CLONE II → SPIDER-MAN CLONE II/KAINE
  • SPIDER-MAN IV → SPIDER-MAN IV/MAC GARGAN & VENOM SYMBIOTE
  • STARWOLF → STARWOLF/DREDMUND CROMWELL
  • STECKLEY, HEATHER DOUGLAS "H.D." → STECKLEY, HEATHER DOUGLAS "H.D."/HEATHER DOUGLAS
  • SUPREMA → SUPREMA/SUSAN SCARBO
  • SURGE III → SURGE III/RAVEN DARKHOLME
  • TALON II → TALON II/LAURA KINNEY
  • TEMPLATE → TEMPLATE/BASTION
  • TERMINATRIX → TERMINATRIX/RAVONNA LEXUS RENSLAYER | EARTH-6311
  • TIMBERIUS II → TIMBERIUS II/LUPO
  • TIMELY, VICTOR → TIMELY, VICTOR/NATHANIEL RICHARDS | EARTH-6311
  • TIMELY, VICTOR II → TIMELY, VICTOR II/NATHANIEL RICHARDS | EARTH-6311
  • TIMELY, VICTOR III → TIMELY, VICTOR III/NATHANIEL RICHARDS | EARTH-6311
  • TIWAZ → TIWAZ/BURI
  • TRIBUNE II → TRIBUNE II/GRAYDON CREED
  • UNCLE ELMER → UNCLE ELMER/WAYLON WILKE
  • VALKYRIE II → VALKYRIE II/AMORA
  • VALKYRIE III → VALKYRIE III/LORELEI
  • VOICE II → VOICE II/DAVID ANGAR
  • VOID → VOID/BOB REYNOLDS
  • WAR IV → WAR IV/CAL'SYEE NERAMANI
  • WAR MACHINE ARMORED SUPPORT 01 → WAR MACHINE ARMORED SUPPORT 01/BETHANY CABE
  • WAR MACHINE ARMORED SUPPORT 02 → WAR MACHINE ARMORED SUPPORT 02/LT. JAKE OH
  • WARHEAD II → WARHEAD II/RAN-SAK
  • WARLOCK → WARLOCK/MAHA YOGI
  • WEAPON I → WEAPON I/STEVE ROGERS
  • WEAPON XII → WEAPON XII/HUNTSMAN
  • WEAPON XIII → WEAPON XIII/CHARLIE-CLUSTER 7/"JEAN-PHILLIPE"
  • WEAPON XV → WEAPON XV/ULTIMATON
  • WEAPON XVI → WEAPON XVI/ALLGOD
  • WENDIGO IX → WENDIGO IX/JEAN-PIERRE BAUBIER
  • WHITE NINJA II → WHITE NINJA II/ABE BROWN
  • WHITE PRINCESS → WHITE PRINCESS/OPHELIA SARKISSIAN
  • WILDHEART → WILDHEART/KYLE GIBNEY
  • WOLVERINE III → WOLVERINE III/AKIHIRO
  • X-TREME → X-TREME/ADAM NERAMANI
  • XANTAREAN → XANTAREAN/QNAX
  • XAOS → XAOS/IMEI CHANG
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Somebody wrote:As Fury might say, let's fix that! (Well, at least where possible)…
I do say that, don't I? :)

You even included a parenthetical statement, a passive interjection AND an ellipsis. Very nice! All you need is a semicolon in there somewhere and you would have my internet grammar structure nailed. :lol:
Somebody wrote:AGENT -> link doesn't actually GO anywhere, RICOCHET RITA entry has been removed (why?).
She's on the W page under WAYWORD, "RICOCHET" RITA.
Somebody wrote:ASSASSIN → For some reason, the Mr. Kline link tries to go to the R page, where there's nothing for it to attach to. I presume this should go to http://www.chronologyproject.com/altern ... E_MR_71778 (Although starting the page collapsed is a problem for this), in which case it should be ASSASSIN/MK-9 | EARTH-71778.
Yep, that's him. I would leave this link on the A page, since he only used this alias in EARTH-616.
Somebody wrote:EBON FLAME → This says "See Black Widow", but links to BLACK WIDOW III (i.e., Natasha). If this is where it's meant to go, change to EBON FLAME/"NATASHA ROMANOFF" ¶ See Black Widow III
Yes, that's a Natasha alias.
Somebody wrote:GOLDEN WOMAN → Which one is this, GWENNY LOU SABUKI or BETTY ROSS? Either way, add name and fix link to go to g.php#GOLDEN_GIRL or g.php#GOLDEN_GIRL_II (not g.php#GOLDENGIRL)
I THINK it's Sabuki, but I'd have to double check to be sure.
Somebody wrote:DAYSPRING, REDD → DAYSPRING, REDD/JEAN GREY SUMMERS
DAYSPRING, SLYM → DAYSPRING, SLYM/SCOTT SUMMERS
I would suggest moving these to the EARTH-4935 section of the alternate realities page, as they only used those aliases in that future world.
Somebody wrote:DOMINO III → DOMINO III/VANESSA CARLYSLE/"NEENA THURMAN"
Hmn. Was she ACTUALLY a Domino? Or was she just an imposter posing as Domino, ala Mystique posing as Dazzler or somesuch? We wouldn't have a DAZZLER V → See Mystique link, would we?
Somebody wrote:FATHER TIME III → FATHER TIME III/CLINT BARTON
Same with this one. This was just a one-issue gag Clint was trying to pull on Steve. He wasn't the next "Father Time" or anything; he was just pulling a prank (there's a semicolon!).
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Col_Fury wrote:
Somebody wrote:DOMINO III → DOMINO III/VANESSA CARLYSLE/"NEENA THURMAN"
Hmn. Was she ACTUALLY a Domino? Or was she just an imposter posing as Domino, ala Mystique posing as Dazzler or somesuch? We wouldn't have a DAZZLER V → See Mystique link, would we?
Fair point - it should probably be DOMINO II IMPOSTOR/VANESSA CARLYSLE (I wasn't thinking about changing that sort of thing).
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Somebody wrote:BLUE MARVEL → Change link to See Marvel Boy VI, add /"BOB GRAYSON" (including quotes) to both - although I would suggest reversing that, and making BLUE MARVEL the main entry and MARVEL BOY VI the "See...".
Small update, this one was taken care of recently in an unrelated fix.

It's now BLUE MARVEL II/"BOB GRAYSON" as the listing with a chronology, similar to the CRUSADER II/"BOB GRAYSON" listing. Also, we now have these:

MARVEL BOY III DUPLICATE
See Crusader II

MARVEL BOY III DUPLICATE II
See Blue Marvel II

This Blue Marvel wasn't the next Marvel Boy, he was a duplicate of Marvel Boy III (as his creation in Q 26 shows). But, this unrelated tweak largely ends up doing what you suggested, so there's that. :)
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To add to this discussion I thought I'd repost: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8603&p=43203#p43203
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